Hi Urs! Inside Flink (between Flink operators) - Kryo is not a problem, but types must be registered up front for good performance - Tuples and POJOs are often faster than the types that fall back to Kryo
Persistent-storage (HDFS, Kafka, ...) - Kryo is not recommended, because its binary data format is not stable. It changes between major Kryo versions and between Kryo setups with different type registrations. - A stable format with schema evolution support (Avro, Thrift, ...) is recommended here. On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Urs Schoenenberger < urs.schoenenber...@tngtech.com> wrote: > Hi Greg, > > do you have a link where I could read up on the rationale behind > avoiding Kryo? I'm currently facing a similar decision and would like to > get some more background on this. > > Thank you very much, > Urs > > On 21.06.2017 12:10, Greg Hogan wrote: > > The recommendation has been to avoid Kryo where possible. > > > > General data exchange: avro or thrift. > > > > Flink internal data exchange: POJO (or Tuple, which are slightly faster > though less readable, and there is an outstanding PR to narrow or close the > performance gap). > > > > Kryo is useful for types which cannot be modified to be a POJO. There > are also cases where Kryo must be used because Flink has insufficient > TypeInformation, such as when returning an interface or abstract type when > the actual concrete type can be known. > > > > > > > >> On Jun 21, 2017, at 3:19 AM, nragon <nuno.goncalves@ > wedotechnologies.com> wrote: > >> > >> So, serialization between producer application -> kafka -> flink kafka > >> consumer will use avro, thrift or kryo right? From there, the remaining > >> pipeline can just use standard pojo serialization, which would be > better? > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: http://apache-flink-user- > mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Kafka-and-Flink- > integration-tp13792p13885.html > >> Sent from the Apache Flink User Mailing List archive. mailing list > archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > Urs Schönenberger - urs.schoenenber...@tngtech.com > > TNG Technology Consulting GmbH, Betastr. 13a, 85774 Unterföhring > Geschäftsführer: Henrik Klagges, Christoph Stock, Dr. Robert Dahlke > Sitz: Unterföhring * Amtsgericht München * HRB 135082 >