Thanks for the reply.

If I only change query upstream and downstream operators, can I restore the 
query's state from a savepoint? It seems like the translated operators for a 
query have a auto-generated uid/hash, whose value depends on its location in 
the graph and its input/output.


Best

Yan

________________________________
From: Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:18:08 AM
To: Yan Zhou [FDS Science]
Cc: user@flink.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to restore state from savepoint with flink SQL

Hi,

At the moment, you can only restore a query from a savepoint if the query is 
not modified and the same Flink version is used.
Since SQL queries are automatically translated into data flows, it is not 
transparent to the user, which operators will be created.
We would need to expose an intermediate state after optimization and before the 
translation into DataStream operators to be able to assign operator UIDs (or 
also fine-tune the parallelism of operators).

For now, we are conservative and don't support this to prevent invalid reuse of 
state.
If you think about changing the query and restarting from a previous savepoint 
you should be aware that (at least some parts of) the results won't have proper 
semantics.

Updating SQL queries or migrating a queries to a new Flink version is a very 
challenging topic for which the community still needs to come up with a 
solution, design, and eventually implementations.

Best,
Fabian



2018-05-23 0:42 GMT+02:00 Yan Zhou [FDS Science] 
<yz...@coupang.com<mailto:yz...@coupang.com>>:

Hi,


My application use flink SQL and it's running in production. How can i update 
my application with topology changes yet doesn't lose the state data?

Is there a way to assign UID to the operators that are translated from SQL? If 
not, is it intended and whats the rationality behind it?


According to the flink document[1], UID has to be manually assigned to each 
operator.  Otherwise changing the topology will very likely change the UID, 
which in return messes up the state restoring from savepoint.


Please advise.

[1] 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/state/savepoints.html#assigning-operator-ids
Apache Flink 1.6-SNAPSHOT Documentation: 
Savepoints<https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/state/savepoints.html#assigning-operator-ids>
ci.apache.org<http://ci.apache.org>
Assigning Operator IDs. It is highly recommended that you adjust your programs 
as described in this section in order to be able to upgrade your programs in 
the future. The main required change is to manually specify operator IDs via 
the uid(String) method.





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