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From: Dominik Wosiński <wos...@gmail.com>
Date: niedz., 26 sie 2018 o 15:12
Subject: ODP: would you join a Slack workspace for Flink?
To: Hequn Cheng <chenghe...@gmail.com>
Hey,
I have been facing this issue for multiple open source projects and
discussions. Slack in my opinion has two main issues :
- the already mentioned issue with searching, through search
engine
- Slack is still commercial application.
The second issue is quite important, because for free version Slack gives
10k messages of history. I personally think that for Flink this would to
loss all messages that are older than a week possibly. This is the big
issue as it woul most certainly lead to asking the same questions over and
over again. I’ve seen really big slack groups for some big projects where
the history would last like 3-4 days and this is pure nightmare.
The better solution would be to use gitter than Slack IMHO if there is need
for such way of communication.
Best Regards,
Dominik.
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*Od: *Hequn Cheng <chenghe...@gmail.com>
*Wysłano: *niedziela, 26 sierpnia 2018 14:37
*Do: *Nicos Maris <nicos.ma...@gmail.com>
*DW: *ches...@apache.org; user <user@flink.apache.org>
*Temat: *Re: would you join a Slack workspace for Flink?
Hi Nicos,
Thanks for bring up this discussion. :-)
Slack is a good way to communicate, but it seems not very fit for the open
source field. The messages on Slack are mixed up and can not be searched
through search engine.
Best, Hequn
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Nicos Maris <nicos.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
Chesnay can you take a look at the following PR?
https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/120
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 1:09 PM Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> wrote:
There have been previous discussions around using slack and they were
rejected.
Personally I would just remove the IRC channel; I'm not aware of any
committer actually spending time there.
On 25.08.2018 17:07, Nicos Maris wrote:
Hi all,
This mailing list is for user support and questions. If you would also use
slack for user support and questions, then please vote at the following
ticket. If you don't have an account at that jira, you can reply to this
email with a "+1".
[FLINK-10217 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-3862>] use Slack
for user support and questions
Current status
For user support and questions, users are instructed to subscribe to
user@flink.apache.org but there are users like me who enjoy using also a
chat channel. However, the instructions to do so are not clear and the IRC
activity is low and it is definitely not indicative of the project's
activity
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-3862?focusedCommentId=16152376&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16152376>
.
The website <https://flink.apache.org/community.html> mentions that "If you
want to talk with the Flink committers and users in a chat, there is an IRC
channel <https://flink.apache.org/community.html#irc>."
Option 1: Use Slack
An example of an Apache project that is using Slack
<https://tedium.co/2017/10/17/irc-vs-slack-chat-history> is:
http://mesos.apache.org/community
I can assist on setting it up if at least one expert joins from the very
beginning.
Option 2: Keep using IRC and document it
Add the missing section
<https://github.com/apache/flink-web/blob/master/community.md#irc> at the
website along with instructions for people who have never used IRC.
Option 3: Use only the mailing list
Use only user@flink.apache.org for user support and questions and do not
mention IRC at the website.
