Hi all!

@Jark, out of curiosity, would you be so kind as to expand a bit on "Query
on the intermediate state is on the roadmap"?
Are you referring to working on QueryableStateStream/QueryableStateClient
[1], or around "FOR SYSTEM_TIME AS OF" [2], or on other APIs/concepts (is
there a FLIP?)?

Cheers
Ben

[1]
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/dev/stream/state/queryable_state.html#querying-state
[2]
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.9/dev/table/streaming/temporal_tables.html#temporal-table


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:40 AM kant kodali <kanth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is it a common practice to have a custom state backend? if so, what would
> be a popular custom backend?
>
> Can I do Elasticseatch as a state backend?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 1:42 AM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kant,
>>
>> 1) List of row is also sufficient in this case. Using a MapState is in
>> order to retract a row faster, and save the storage size.
>>
>> 2) State Process API is usually used to process save point. I’m afraid
>> the performance is not good to use it for querying.
>>     On the other side, AFAIK, State Process API requires the uid of
>> operator. However, uid of operators is not set in Table API & SQL.
>>     So I’m not sure whether it works or not.
>>
>> 3)You can have a custom statebackend by
>> implement org.apache.flink.runtime.state.StateBackend interface, and use it
>> via `env.setStateBackend(…)`.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jark
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:16, kant kodali <kanth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jark,
>>>
>>> 1) shouldn't it be a col1 to List of row? multiple rows can have the
>>> same joining key right?
>>>
>>> 2) Can I use state processor API
>>> <https://flink.apache.org/feature/2019/09/13/state-processor-api.html>
>>> from an external application to query the intermediate results in near
>>> real-time? I thought querying rocksdb state is a widely requested feature.
>>> It would be really great to consider this feature for 1.11
>>>
>>> 3) Is there any interface where I can implement my own state backend?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 6:08 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kant,
>>>>
>>>> 1) Yes, it will be stored in rocksdb statebackend.
>>>> 2) In old planner, the left state is the same with right state which
>>>> are both `<col1, MapState<Row, Tuple2<count, expiredTime>>>`.
>>>>     It is a 2-level map structure, where the `col1` is the join key, it
>>>> is the first-level key of the state. The key of the MapState is the input
>>>> row,
>>>>     and the `count` is the number of this row, the expiredTime
>>>> indicates when to cleanup this row (avoid infinite state size). You can
>>>> find the source code here[1].
>>>>     In blink planner, the state structure will be more complex which is
>>>> determined by the meta-information of upstream. You can see the source code
>>>> of blink planner here [2].
>>>> 3) Currently, the intermediate state is not exposed to users. Usually,
>>>> users should write the query result to an external system (like Mysql) and
>>>> query the external system.
>>>>     Query on the intermediate state is on the roadmap, but I guess it
>>>> is not in 1.11 plan.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jark
>>>>
>>>> [1]:
>>>> http://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-planner/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/runtime/join/NonWindowJoin.scala#L61
>>>> [2]:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/master/flink-table/flink-table-runtime-blink/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/runtime/operators/join/stream/state/JoinRecordStateViews.java#L45
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2020年1月21日 18:01,kant kodali <kanth...@gmail.com> 写道:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> If I run a query like this
>>>>
>>>> StreamTableEnvironment.sqlQuery("select * from table1 join table2 on
>>>> table1.col1 = table2.col1")
>>>>
>>>> 1) Where will flink store the intermediate result? Imagine
>>>> flink-conf.yaml says state.backend = 'rocksdb'
>>>>
>>>> 2) If the intermediate results are stored in rockdb then what is the
>>>> key and value in this case(given the query above)?
>>>>
>>>> 3) What is the best way to query these intermediate results from an
>>>> external application? while the job is running and while the job is not
>>>> running?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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