Hi Xintong,
Just to be clear. I haven't set any -Xmx -i will check our scripts again.
Assuming no -Xmx is set, the doc above says 1/4 of physical memory i.e 29GB
will be used.

So, if I can set env.java.opts: "-Xmx102g" in flink-conf.yaml, I am
assuming the heap max of 102Gb will be used in the N/w mem calculation.
Is that the right way to set env.java.opts ??
TIA,
Vijay

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:49 AM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Flink should have calculated the heap size and set the -Xms, according to
> the equations I mentioned. So if you haven't set an customized -Xmx that
> overwrites this, it should not use the default 1.4 of physical memory.
>>
>>
>>    - Standalone: jvmHeap = total * (1 - networkFraction) = 102 GB * (1 -
>>    0.48) = 53 GB
>>    - On Yarn: jvmHeap = (total - Max(cutoff-min, total * cutoff-ratio))
>>    * (1 - networkFraction) = (102GB - Max(600MB, 102GB * 0.25)) * (1 - 0.48) 
>> =
>>    40.6GB
>>
>>
> Are you running Flink on Mesos? I think Flink has not automatically set
> -Xmx on Mesos.
>
>
> BTW, from your screenshot the physical memory is 123GB, so 1/4 of that is
> much closer to 29GB if we consider there are some rounding errors and
> accuracy loss.
>
>
> Thank you~
>
> Xintong Song
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:33 PM Vijay Balakrishnan <bvija...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thx, Xintong for a great answer. Much appreciated.
>>
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.9/ops/mem_setup.html#jvm-heap
>>
>>
>> Max heap: if -Xmx is set then it is its value else ΒΌ of physical machine
>> memory estimated by the JVM
>>
>> No -Xmx is set.So, 1/4 of 102GB  = 25.5GB but not sure about the 29GB
>> figure.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:14 PM Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vijay,
>>>
>>> The memory configurations in Flink 1.9 and previous versions are indeed
>>> complicated and confusing. That is why we made significant changes to it in
>>> Flink 1.10. If possible, I would suggest upgrading to Flink 1.10, or the
>>> upcoming Flink 1.11 which is very likely to be released in this month.
>>>
>>> Regarding your questions,
>>>
>>>    - "Physical Memory" displayed on the web ui stands for the total
>>>    memory on your machine. This information is retrieved from your OS. It is
>>>    not related to the network memory calculation. It is displayed mainly for
>>>    historical reasons.
>>>    - The error message means that you have about 26.8 GB network memory
>>>    (877118 * 32768 bytes), and your job is trying to use more.
>>>    - The "total memory" referred in network memory calculation is:
>>>       - jvm-heap + network, if managed memory is configured on-heap
>>>       (default)
>>>          - According to your screenshot, the managed memory
>>>          on-heap/off-heap configuration is not touched, so this should be 
>>> your case.
>>>       - jvm-heap + managed + network, if managed memory is configured
>>>       off-heap
>>>    - The network memory size is actually derived reversely. Flink reads
>>>    the max heap size from JVM (and the managed memory size from 
>>> configuration
>>>    if it is configured off-heap), and derives the network memory size with 
>>> the
>>>    following equation.
>>>       - networkMem = Min(networkMax, Max(networkMin, jvmMaxHeap /
>>>       (1-networkFraction) * networkFraction))
>>>       - In your case, networkMem = Min(50GB, Max(500MB, 29GB / (1-0.48)
>>>       * 0.48)) = 26.8GB
>>>
>>> One thing I don't understand is, why do you only have 29GB heap size
>>> when "taskmanager.heap.size" is configured to be "1044221m" (about 102 GB).
>>> The JVM heap size ("-Xmx" & "-Xms") is calculated as follows. I'll use
>>> "total" to represent "taskmanager.heap.size" for short. Also omitted the
>>> calculations when managed memory is configured off-heap.
>>>
>>>    - Standalone: jvmHeap = total * (1 - networkFraction) = 102 GB * (1
>>>    - 0.48) = 53 GB
>>>    - On Yarn: jvmHeap = (total - Max(cutoff-min, total * cutoff-ratio))
>>>    * (1 - networkFraction) = (102GB - Max(600MB, 102GB * 0.25)) * (1 - 
>>> 0.48) =
>>>    40.6GB
>>>
>>> Have you specified a custom "-Xmx" parameter?
>>>
>>> Thank you~
>>>
>>> Xintong Song
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 7:50 AM Vijay Balakrishnan <bvija...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Get this error:
>>>> java.io.IOException: Insufficient number of network buffers: required
>>>> 2, but only 0 available. The total number of network buffers is currently
>>>> set to 877118 of 32768 bytes each. You can increase this number by setting
>>>> the configuration keys 'taskmanager.network.memory.fraction',
>>>> 'taskmanager.network.memory.min', and 'taskmanager.network.memory.max'.
>>>> akka.pattern.AskTimeoutException: Ask timed out on
>>>> [Actor[akka://flink/user/dispatcher#-1420732632]] after [10000 ms]. Message
>>>> of type [org.apache.flink.runtime.rpc.messages.LocalFencedMessage]. A
>>>> typical reason for `AskTimeoutException` is that the recipient actor didn't
>>>> send a reply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Followed docs here:
>>>>
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.9/ops/mem_setup.html
>>>>
>>>> network = Min(max, Max(min, fraction x total)  //what does Total mean -
>>>> The max JVM heap is used to derive the total memory for the calculation of
>>>> network buffers. - can I see it in the Flink Dashboard ??? 117GB here ?
>>>> = Min(50G, Max(500mb, Max(0.48 * 117G))  ) = MIn(50G, 56.16G)= 50G
>>>> 877118 of 32768 bytes each comes to 28.75GB. So, why is it failing ?
>>>> Used this in flink-conf.yaml:
>>>>     taskmanager.numberOfTaskSlots: 10
>>>>     rest.server.max-content-length: 314572800
>>>>     taskmanager.network.memory.fraction: 0.45
>>>>     taskmanager.network.memory.max: 50gb
>>>>     taskmanager.network.memory.min: 500mb
>>>>     akka.ask.timeout: 240s
>>>>     cluster.evenly-spread-out-slots: true
>>>>     akka.tcp.timeout: 240s
>>>> taskmanager.network.request-backoff.initial: 5000
>>>> taskmanager.network.request-backoff.max: 30000
>>>> web.timeout:1000000
>>>> web.refresh-interval:6000
>>>>
>>>> Saw some old calc about buffers
>>>> (slots/Tm * slots/TM) * #TMs * 4
>>>> =10 * 10 * 47 * 4 = 18,800 buffers.
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing in the network buffer calc ??
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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