Thanks a lot for the response, folks! I appreciate it. I plan to use native
mode in future mostly for the resource management it plans to offer. Let me go
through the links provided.
@Yang Wang "Since the CR is defined in yaml[2], native and standalone could
have some dedicated fields. And you could easily parse them in your K8s
operator.": Do you mean having fields that are needed for both native and
standalone mode in the CRD (probably making them optional in the CRD) and each
operator type (standalone/native) using fields that are relevant for it?
Thanks,Gaurav
On Tuesday, April 20, 2021, 08:23:34 AM PDT, Austin Cawley-Edwards
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Gaurav,
I think the name "Native Kubernetes" is a bit misleading – this just means that
you can use the Flink CLI/ scripts to run Flink applications on Kubernetes
without using the Kubernetes APIs/ kubectl directly. What features are you
looking to use in the native mode?
I think it would be difficult to use this directly inside an operator, but
keeping "feature parity" with it is a good goal for your CRDs. Since CRDs are
essentially just a new API, the design approach should be user/ feature-first.
By feature parity, I mean taking currently supported "Native Kubernetes"
functionality as the feature list for your CRDs, for example:* Allowing Secrets
to be mounted as files and environment variables [1]* Allowing templating of
the JobManager and TaskManager Pods (containers, etc.) [2]* Easy use of
built-in plugins [3]* etc.
Other "Native Kubernetes" "features", like RBAC and logs, will come "out of the
box" by defining Custom Resources.
Yang's resources are a great place to start, though I'd suggest defining your
API spec within the CRD explicitly[4], which will be clearer for your users and
will allow for schema validation by other tools.
Best,Austin
[1]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#using-secrets[2]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#pod-template[3]:
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/deployment/resource-providers/native_kubernetes/#using-plugins[4]:
https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/extend-kubernetes/custom-resources/custom-resource-definitions/#specifying-a-structural-schema
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 2:13 AM Yang Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
I think the compatibility depends on you. For example, you could have the
sameCustomResourceDefinition for standalone and native Flink applications. They
could
look like this[1].
Since the CR is defined in yaml[2], native and standalone could have some
dedicated fields.And you could easily parse them in your K8s operator.
[1].
https://github.com/wangyang0918/flink-native-k8s-operator/blob/master/deploy/crd.yaml[2].
https://github.com/wangyang0918/flink-native-k8s-operator/blob/master/deploy/cr.yaml
Best,Yang
gaurav kulkarni <[email protected]> 于2021年4月20日周二 上午8:57写道:
Hi,
I plan to create a flink K8s operator which supports standalone mode, and and
switch to native mode sometime later. I was wondering what are some of the
approaches to ensure that CRD is compatible with both native and standalone
mode?
Thanks