Thanks for the constructive criticism. Actually, I don't agree with that comment (I hope you at least agree that I can disagree with your sentiment). I'm trying to learn Forrest. Do you think this should happen overnight? Shouldn't there be someplace for a new user to turn?
As a return favor, I'll offer you this suggestion: don't visit the "user" mailing list. Then us "users" (just me at this time but I'm assuming they're are more that have been chased away) can learn it the old-fashioned way. In the end, if we haven't walked away in disgust, we'll know the internals and what Forrest can do for us.
Andy, I really think you have misinterpreted David's comments here. He is simply suggesting that starting to learn Forrest at the beginning, with the basic concepts first and then progressing to the advanced topics would probably result in a more productive experience on your part. This was observed because you appear to be doing some advanced customisation of your project before understanding the basic menu generation system, you said yourself that you can't create a screenshot because you currently don't know "which way is up in Forrest". David is merely suggesting that getting a solid understanding of the basic Forrest functionality would be a good precursor to creating advanced customisations.
I can assure you that his comment was in no way meant as a criticism, he even tried to make this clear in his response. As with all email communication one needs to think carefully about the real intent of the author, there is no "tone of voice" to guide interpretation and there can often be language barriers as well. Trust me, the Forrest community is one of the most welcoming you will find, and David is one of the most constructively helpful readers of this user list.
Lets get on with using and improving Forrest.
Ross
- Andy
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:04:31 +1100, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Andy J wrote:
I'd be happy to contribute in that way (it's one way that I might be able to help). As soon as I know which way is up in Forrest!:)
This is intended as a constructive comment ... If you don't yet understand how the Forrest internals work, then you should probably not be messing with advanced topics like aggregation and project sitemaps.
--David
David Crossley wrote:
Andy J wrote:
If it's not an error, it's at least confusing. On menus and linking (http://forrest.apache.org/docs/linking.html#menu_generation) the example refers to an image where the How-To Samples is supposed to appear on the Community tab below the About menu item. This is the case for the second following image but not the image immediately following the example so that seems confusing. Or am I just not following the example?
It is not an error. It is just that no-one has found the time to re-create all the screenshots to update those documents to the current default "pelt" skin and recent layout. The text of the documents has been updated.
Patches to the documents and updated images are welcome via our Jira Issue Tracker.
--David
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