> -----Original Message----- > From: chemosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 6:25 PM > To: user@forrest.apache.org > Subject: Re: is forrest the right choice? > > Thank you for your answer. > > I thought about a CMS system but I believe a CMS is also not the kind of > app I`m searching because it is more about the document itself and that > everybody can edit it. > > So, I noticed I stressed the interactivity a little bit to much in my > previous explanation. > The primary focus is more on the template form creation. It is not > about documents like research papers where more person contribute but > moreover documents describing processes within the university.
> So one > persons fills out an official form describing what he wants to do and > then all persons and positions which are involved can see this form. In Lenya this would be the Author/Creator who creates the document and need Not have permissions to Publish. > Ultimately the data security official has to give its "ok" according to > what he can see in the filled out document and the described process can > be used. In Lenya this could be the Publisher who has writes to publish the document If it passes criteria, or he/she can edit it, mark comments whatever and not Publish it (therefore rejecting it) until it is submitted correctly. > And if the request is rejected by the data security official the creator > should have the possibility to edit his won document according to the > reason why it was rejected. > > I hope this makes it more clear what I`m trying to develop. > > > Sorry, for asking twice but I really want to be sure that Forrest is not > what I`m searching. Lenya has lots of layers for permissions based authoring, Forrest itself does not but I suppose you can use it in a way that people create/edit Xml documents and only a Publisher (Data Security Offical) can actually Deploy the changes to a server. Otherwise consider looking at Ross' suggestion of Daisy - which I know Absolutely nothing about but would listen to judgement if he says it Is right for you. Gav... > > Kai > > Ross Gardler schrieb: > > Short answer - no, Forest is not suitable for your use case. > > > > Forrest is an XML publishing framework, it is not a Content Management > > System. > > > > Since Forrest is built on top of Cocoon, a web application framework, > > you could make it do all the things you want, but you would be much > > better adopting a framework already suitable for the purpose. I.e. go > > directly to Cocoon or take a look at the two Cocoon based CMS systems: > > > > http://lenya.apache.org > > http://www.cocoondev.org/daisy > > > > Personally I think Daisy is better suited to your needs. Lenya is a > > CMS framework and would need much more work to get o the stage you > > want (although gives you more flexibility in the long term). Daisy is > > pretty much ready for your needs now. > > > > The downside of daisy is that it does not store the structured part of > > your data in a relational database and so querying a large data set > > will be inefficient. You can modify it to do this, but if you have a > > large data set you may be better considering Lenya since, as I say, it > > is a framework designed for such customisation. > > > > Of course there are plenty of other solutions you could go for that do > > not use Cocoon as the framework, Apache alone has about a fair few > > webapp framework projects. > > > > Ross > > > > chemosh wrote: > >> Hello! > >> > >> If this is not the right place to ask my question I apologize in > >> advance. > >> > >> Currently I`m trying to decide if forrest is the correct choice to > >> fulfill my needs and I hope you can answer that or at least say if > >> you think that forrest can do what I want it to do. > >> > >> I`m working as an student employee at a university and as you can > >> image there is a lot paperwork do to.The normal practice here is to > >> fill out word documents with some macros then bring them, or in some > >> cases send them via email to the next department where the document > >> is reviewed, feedback given, etc.......altogether very ineffective. > >> > >> My job now is to provide a web-based solution where a user can fill > >> out and edit a form and then when he is finished it is send to the > >> right persons which can review it, give feedfack, etc......everything > >> via the website. So until everything is correct no more printing, etc > >> should be necessary. > >> I want the forms to be created via templates so that a new form can > >> easily be adapted and used. > >> > >> So in the end the user should be able to view every document they > >> ever created. Easily create and edit new documents and export them to > >> various formats and it should be quite easy to integrate new forms > >> via templates. ;) > >> > >> So to get to my question again, can this be done with the help of > >> forrest as basic "framework" for the webapp or do you think that > >> another framework would be better suited for the job? > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Kai > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006