In our testing we’ve found mixed results with G1 and Geode for many 
applications.  

- G1 does require significant tuning to achieve desired pause times on many 
workloads.  This is somewhat disappointing as in practice it requires a similar 
degree of effort/complexity as CMS.

- G1 tends to be at odds with the Geode Resource Manager when using heap-based 
eviction (this is a very common safety mechanism).  There may be some hope if 
'-XX:SoftMaxHeapSize’ is ever merged to relevant versions like jdk8.

I suspect the best choice is to skip G1 and go directly to Z / Shenandoah which 
are more targeted at low latency high memory workloads.  I would LOVE to see an 
RFC proposing this effort :-)


Anthony


> On Mar 31, 2021, at 6:58 AM, Jacob Barrett <jabarr...@vmware.com> wrote:
> 
> There has been lots of talk over the years but no action I am aware of. I 
> would suggest we start with Z since it is more widely available. In 
> benchmarking it has shown impressive out of the box improvements over heavily 
> tuned CMS. Shenandoah is very similar in behavior and structure so picking it 
> up after should be easy.
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Alberto Gomez <alberto.go...@est.tech> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The Geode documentation on the Resource Manager ([1]) provides information 
>> about its integration with CMS and G1 although it seems to suggest that only 
>> CMS is well supported with it, or at least, it is the preferred alternative.
>> 
>> Given that CMS has been deprecated in JDK 9 (and will not be available in 
>> JDK 14) and that there are newer and more efficient GCs like Shenandoah and 
>> ZGC available (Shenandoah is supported in OpenJDK 11.0.9), I would like to 
>> know if there is any work or discussions ongoing in the community about the 
>> integration of ZGC and/or Shenandoah with Geode's Resource Manager.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Alberto G.
>> 
>> [1]: 
>> https://geode.apache.org/docs/guide/113/managing/heap_use/heap_management.html

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