This looks to me like a really useful use case and I hope we can figure out a good solution quickly and document it. I hope someone who knows more about JSF than I can help or the "quickly" part is unlikely :-)

On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:05 PM, Ralf Baumhof wrote:

I have got an application where after a successful login the user maybe must select a role (the user may be an administrator and a standard user). So, a navigation to a role-selection-page must be performed. We are using JSF pages for the view component, so we have an easy and powerful navigation mechanism.

I've wondered about how to do stuff like this and have a couple questions - Does authenticating the user happen before or after the user chooses the role they wish to be in? - Is the user presented with a list of possible roles based on their identity? - How many web pages does this process take up? E.g., is role selection on the same page or a different page than filling in user/ credential info?


From the web application security example (see http:// cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC20/web-application-security-sample.html) we know a very good and easy way of using JAAS authentication with a geronimo security realm. This example uses standard servlet authentication procedure for login at web container. This procedure requires a simple html page with the j_security_check action. So, if we are using JSF pages we are loosing a lot of the powerful JSF navigation features. So my attempt was to use a JSF page with a JSF backing bean which performs the step by itself using the LoginContext.login("my-security-realm",myCallBackHandler) method. This also works fine, but the authentication is only done with the ejb container. Tomcat is not informed about the user login. So the secure pages are still restricted.

I think the reason this is tricky is that the javaee security model has the container making the authentication and access decisions in container code that is accessed before the control gets to any user code. There is no provision for the user code to either help with container managed authentication or authorization. So, by the time control gets to the code backing the jsf components, both authentication and authorization should have taken place.

As a wild and unlikely idea, could some of the JSF component code forward an appropriately munged request to the j_security_check stuff?

You might try the geronimo-specific ContextManager.login method which will at least engage geronimo's security framework. I don't think it will work though for repeated requests as I don't see any way for tomcat to recognize that the next request is from the same user.

It might also be possible to fish around inside tomcat to get the Authenticator and use that instead of ContextManager.login. Since this is what tomcat does anyway this should install the stuff tomcat uses to track the user.

It might also be possible to do something elegant in the new and not- in-geronimo-yet jaspi spec.

Does the jsf spec have anything to say about this?

thanks
david jencks


Does anybody know a better way of integrating JAAS with JSF with the purpose of not loosing the JSF navigation features??
Thanks in advance!!
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