Is Data scientist in hadoop same as BA in IT.

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From: Michael Forage <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:57:24 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World

Hi Vijay

I'm afraid I'm not experienced or specialised enough in either Hadoop or the 
broader Big data industry to give any advice on career paths

Obviously different organisations expect completely different levels of 
technical contribution from their Business Analysts but in my experience the 
ability to collect, evaluate and interpret business requirements into some kind 
of functional specification document is key. The responsibility for subsequent 
technical specifications based applied knowledge of the big data tools at 
disposal will probably sit with your Solution Architect. Often a BA wouldn't 
care how a solution is implemented under the covers. However, in the same way 
that a BA may define user-flows in a use-case they could outline a conceptual 
data processing flow if they understand the source data and requirements well 
enough.

There are so many new tools and technologies in this space already that, unless 
you have a specific requirement to meet, it can be pretty overwhelming. I'd 
just start by concentrating on getting an understanding of map reduce concepts. 
Sure, it always helps if you've the time to get some hands-on technical  
experience but that's not a trivial undertaking from a standing start and it 
may be completely irrelevant for you in the long run as that's not what a BA is 
paid to do.

Sorry I can't be more help
Mike

From: Vijaya Narayana Reddy Bhoomi Reddy [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 28 June 2013 14:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World

Michael,

Thanks for your advice. I am just confused because I could not see a clear 
career path for Business Analysts in the Hadoop world. May be because, it's an 
evolving field or maybe I am not yet aware of the same despite reading some 
primary content on the internet. However, I firmly believe the Big Data space 
is going to be very big in the next years and I would like to be part of it and 
contribute. I would like to know from you more on the role and responsibilities 
a BA can perform in this space and the possible areas / technologies which I 
need myself to be prepared for.

Thanks
Vijay

From: Michael Forage [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:23 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Business Analysts in Hadoop World

Hi Vijay

My advice is to carefully consider the scope of the role you're aiming for

As a BA I expect that you'd be able to add value by understanding your business 
data processing challenges and turning them into specifications for map/reduce 
jobs. This doesn't require you to have any Java coding skills as such, just a 
good handle of the map/reduce concepts. It also helps if you understand common 
use-cases associated with these technologies (as it's really an ecosystem of 
related toolsets) as well as what they're not so good for.

This would allow you to contribute to solution design on behalf of the business 
but assumes you're not concerned with the actual implementation/administration 
side of things. Definitely only bother re-learning Java if you're going to be 
the one writing the code. You do need to have had experience of working with 
data of some kind (this is a data processing environment at the end of the day) 
but simply reading a decent Hadoop book and googling a few websites should give 
you a decent enough background as a BA

Cheers
Mike

From: Lokesh Basu [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 28 June 2013 12:35
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Business Analysts in Hadoop World

Dear Vijay,

If you are a beginner in the open source project then I would recommend you to 
first get familiar with Java and some version control system and then go to 
this (http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/HowToContribute) page.

If you are not aware of the Hadoop project then you should go through some 
online text/videos to get the insight.

Best of luck


Lokesh Chandra Basu
B. Tech
Computer Science and Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee
India(GMT +5hr 30min)



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Vijaya Narayana Reddy Bhoomi Reddy 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

I am just trying to get myself acquainted with Hadoop and other related 
technologies. I am very much fascinated with the potential of the Big Data 
world and hence would like to be part of it!!
However, it has been a while I have done any coding. Earlier for a brief period 
of time during early days of my career, I have done some work in Java. All 
these days, I am working as a Business Analyst in the CRM space.


*         Before I start exploring Hadoop world, I would like to hear your 
thoughts on the following queries:


*         Being a business analyst, what would be the possible career 
opportunities in the Hadoop space?


*         Is it necessary to have a strong technical background before jumping 
into Hadoop? If so, which technologies need to be learnt primarily? Java, SQL 
etc?


*         What are the various certifications available in the Hadoop world? 
Are there any certifications for Business Analysts?

Please let me know your valuable thoughts.

Thanks
Vijay


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