Suraj,

Outside review would be unbiased and that is one of the option. But,
instead of waiting for a good outside samaritan who is interested in
Hama/Giraph/Mahout and others to do an unbiased review, it would good to
get started with something. Also, not sure if someone from outside would do
it without any $.

Praveen


On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Suraj Menon <[email protected]> wrote:

> @Billy, completely agree, I gave a similar message at Apache BarCamp
> DC last week.
>
> @Praveen, I am sorry, I differ with you here. :) The Hama wiki should
> only explain Hama performance. In my personal opinion, this should be
> done by any interested user/developer outside. Hopefully, we would be
> proud to share that link.
>
> -Suraj
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Billy Newport <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I think the difference may be that Hama provides a bsp base with graph
> > also. Giraph seems to just do graph. With Hama becoming a top level
> > apache project now, it's hard to see giraph making it also given the
> > overlap. My vote would be for giraph to combine forces and enhance
> > Hama but we will see, I guess.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On May 26, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Praveen Sripati <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> If I see the benchmarks [1], it's always Hama against Hama. While this
> is
> >> absolutely necessary to make sure Hama doesn't regress, it's even more
> >> necessary to compare (functionality, performance, algorithms etc) Hama
> with
> >> others.
> >>
> >> Couldn't agree more with Suraj on benchmarks to benchmarks comparison.
> >> Since everything is available as open source it should be possible to
> do a
> >> comparison with the same data set with out-of-the-box software without
> any
> >> fine tuning for different algorithms.
> >>
> >> Just my 2c.
> >>
> >> Praveen
> >>
> >> [1] - http://wiki.apache.org/hama/Benchmarks
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Edward J. Yoon <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> and also, GraphLab, and Spark.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Praveen Sripati
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> What advantages does Hama offer over Giraph for graph processing?
> >>>>
> >>>> After watching the following video (http://vimeo.com/40737998) both
> Hama
> >>>> and Giraph seems to have somewhat similar API approach for graph
> >>>> processing. Both of them extend/implement a vertex class and implement
> >>> the
> >>>> compute method.
> >>>>
> >>>> We can may be covert this discussion into a Wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Praveen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
> >>> @eddieyoon
> >>>
>

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