Man I appreciate so much all the help you provided so far. I guess
I'll keep digging. Would this meta scan cause Get or Scan on user
tables to be very very slow too? That was actually was the problem I
first noticed: from time to time a client Get or Scan would be
extremely slow on my tables.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans <[email protected]> wrote:
> The store file looks fairly new, maybe it was just major compacted?
> You could easily figure that out from the region server's log.
>
> Your problem is definitely a .META. region slowness. If scanning 8k
> rows takes 30 minutes, scanning and updating 260 rows at the same time
> probably isn't much faster.
>
> J-D
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> J-D,
>>
>> It looks like I don't have that many files:
>>
>> drwxr-xr-x   - root supergroup          0 2011-02-28 23:21
>> /hbase/.META./1028785192
>> -rw-r--r--   3 root supergroup        932 2011-02-03 19:23
>> /hbase/.META./1028785192/.regioninfo
>> drwxr-xr-x   - root supergroup          0 2011-03-01 17:13
>> /hbase/.META./1028785192/info
>> -rw-r--r--   3 root supergroup   11831330 2011-03-01 17:13
>> /hbase/.META./1028785192/info/6687606720393313750
>> drwxr-xr-x   - root supergroup          0 2011-03-01 17:13
>> /hbase/.META./compaction.dir
>>
>> So you think compaction on .META. table on the RS could be the
>> problem? while the log metaScanner is running I saw virtually no logs
>> on that server though, I did see compactions once the meta scan ended
>> and region close started to happen. I wonder what the cluster is doing
>> while the meta scan is going.
>>
>> I would definitely upgrade in the near future, it's just that I am
>> afraid upgrading won't guarantee a fix if I don't understand the
>> nature of the problem more clearly. We also have another test cluster,
>> running the same versions of everything on cheaper hardware and it
>> doesn't have this problem.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> That long .META. scan might be the culprit, good catch!
>>>
>>> If you run this from the hadoop folder:
>>>
>>> bin/hadoop dfs -lsr /hbase/.META.
>>>
>>> Do you see a ton of files? Let's define "ton" as more than 16 files.
>>> If so, and I see you have a very high number of regions, then you
>>> could be hitting this problem:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-3499
>>>
>>> In short, every few .META. change will result in a flush and it could
>>> be that the region server hosting it isn't able to keep up with the
>>> compactions. It's done so that since append isn't supported in your
>>> hadoop that you won't lose too much data if the node dies, which is
>>> really bad when it happens to .META.
>>>
>>> In your case it might not be so bad to set your .META.'s MEMSTORE_SIZE
>>> back to the default value if you're not writing hence not splitting.
>>> Running the script attached in that jira would do it (don't forget to
>>> restart HBase after running it).
>>>
>>> Lastly, upgrading to HBase 0.90.1 and a hadoop that supports append
>>> should be a priority.
>>>
>>> J-D
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi J-D:
>>>>
>>>>  I did the scan like you suggested but no splits came up. This kind
>>>> of makes sense to me, since we write Hfiles using a MR job and then
>>>> pretty much use HBase for read-only so maybe that's why the regions
>>>> never got split? I think my slow disable problem is related to this
>>>> RegionManager.metaScanner. I greped for that in the Masters log and I
>>>> saw:
>>>> 11/03/01 15:30:37 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scanning meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020, regionname:
>>>> .META.,,1, startKey: <>}
>>>> 11/03/01 15:55:40 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scan of 8296 row(s) of meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020,
>>>> regionname: .META.,,1, startKey: <>} complete
>>>> 11/03/01 15:55:40 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scanning meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020, regionname:
>>>> .META.,,1, startKey: <>}
>>>> Thread 27 (RegionManager.metaScanner):
>>>> 11/03/01 16:21:04 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scan of 8296 row(s) of meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020,
>>>> regionname: .META.,,1, startKey: <>} complete
>>>> 11/03/01 16:21:04 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scanning meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020, regionname:
>>>> .META.,,1, startKey: <>}
>>>> Thread 27 (RegionManager.metaScanner):
>>>> 11/03/01 16:46:07 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.metaScanner
>>>> scan of 8298 row(s) of meta region {server: 10.146.14.38:60020,
>>>> regionname: .META.,,1, startKey: <>} complete
>>>>
>>>> It looks like meta scanner is always running, each time taking 20-30
>>>> minutes. Here's what I did:
>>>>
>>>> 1) disable table -> at 16:28:31, according the log above there's a
>>>> meta scan in progress.
>>>>
>>>> 2 ) the command hangs, no output in .META RS's log
>>>> at 11/03/01 16:46:57 the client got 11/03/01 16:46:58 DEBUG
>>>> zookeeper.ZooKeeperWrapper: Read ZNode /hbase/root-region-server got
>>>> 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>> 11/03/01 16:46:58 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers: Found
>>>> ROOT at 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>> 11/03/01 16:46:58 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers: Cached
>>>> location for .META.,,1 is 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>> This corresponds exact to when the meta scan completed. .META RS
>>>> started to spew some logs about closing regions.
>>>>
>>>> 3) Another meta scan started and the client hangs again until it
>>>> finishes, and disable command returns.The whole thing took 2688.5930
>>>> seconds
>>>>
>>>> What kind of problem does it look like to you J-D? What does this
>>>> background task metaScanner do?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I didn't get most of the information I was looking for... but I do
>>>>> have something to work with. So I asked whether the metaScanner was
>>>>> making progress or not, and from that log I think I see it does:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:30 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers:
>>>>>> Rowscanned=261, rowsOffline=3
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:30 DEBUG client.HBaseAdmin: Sleep. Waiting for all
>>>>>> regions to be disabled from myTable
>>>>>
>>>>> Only 3 rows are offline, whereas we expect all the region to be
>>>>> offline. I expect you see those lines a lot? If so, one thing I'd like
>>>>> to see is the result of this command:
>>>>>
>>>>> scan '.META.', {STARTROW => "myTable,,", LIMIT => 261}
>>>>>
>>>>> It's going to be big. Then grep in the result for the string SPLIT,
>>>>> and please post back here the lines that match.
>>>>>
>>>>> J-D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I issued two more disable commands and looked at the .META RS. The
>>>>>> last log entry looks like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:29:14 INFO regionserver.HLog: Roll
>>>>>> /hbase/.logs/<RS_HOSTNAME>,60020,1298935751670/hlog
>>>>>> .dat.1298935752660, entries=13527, calcsize=3839046, filesize=2560143.
>>>>>> New hlog 
>>>>>> /hbase/.logs/<RS_HOSTNAME>,60020,1298935751670/hlog.dat.1298939354072
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I issued the command at: 00:34:59, the client debug message has
>>>>>> nothing but "11/03/01 00:34:59 DEBUG zookeeper.ClientCnxn: Got ping
>>>>>> response for sessionid:0x12e6e938e9c000b after 90ms" until 00:47:19.
>>>>>> Then all of a sudden it outputs the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 0:47:28 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers: Cache hit for
>>>>>> row <> in tableName .META.: location server 10.146.14.38:60020,
>>>>>> location region name .META.,,1
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:28 DEBUG zookeeper.ZooKeeperWrapper: Read ZNode
>>>>>> /hbase/root-region-server got 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:28 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers: Found
>>>>>> ROOT at 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:28 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers: Cached
>>>>>> location for .META.,,1 is 10.146.14.38:60020
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:30 DEBUG client.HConnectionManager$TableServers:
>>>>>> Rowscanned=261, rowsOffline=3
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:30 DEBUG client.HBaseAdmin: Sleep. Waiting for all
>>>>>> regions to be disabled from myTable
>>>>>> 11/03/01 00:47:31 DEBUG client.HBaseAdmin: Wake. Waiting for all
>>>>>> regions to be disabled from myTable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the full thread dump of the .META RS from 00:34:59 to  00:47:31
>>>>>> http://pastebin.com/Ywwx8afQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope I compiled some useful information here. I am pretty lost at
>>>>>> this point, I would really appreciate your help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok so no debug from the disable command? BTW you should output your GC
>>>>>>> somewhere else like the .out file or a completely separate file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I see, so I should jstack the .META region. I'll do that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The master log pretty much looks like this: should I grep for
>>>>>>>> something specific?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 11/02/28 22:52:56 INFO master.BaseScanner: RegionManager.rootScanner
>>>>>>>> scan of 1 row(s) of meta region complete
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:52:57.138+0000: 263241.014: [GC 263241.014: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 19136K->2112K(19136K), 0.0033350 secs] 378606K->36159
>>>>>>>> 6K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0034330 secs] [Times: user=0.02 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.00 secs]
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:53:04.956+0000: 263248.832: [GC 263248.832: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 19068K->2112K(19136K), 0.0029690 secs] 378552K->36163
>>>>>>>> 0K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0030460 secs] [Times: user=0.02 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.00 secs]
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:53:12.664+0000: 263256.540: [GC 263256.541: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 19136K->2112K(19136K), 0.0037690 secs] 378654K->36164
>>>>>>>> 7K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0038660 secs] [Times: user=0.01 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.01 secs]
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:53:20.608+0000: 263264.484: [GC 263264.484: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 19136K->1810K(19136K), 0.0032600 secs] 378671K->36134
>>>>>>>> 6K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0033470 secs] [Times: user=0.02 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.01 secs]
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:53:28.278+0000: 263272.154: [GC 263272.154: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 18834K->2112K(19136K), 0.0029870 secs] 378370K->36166
>>>>>>>> 1K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0030670 secs] [Times: user=0.01 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.01 secs]
>>>>>>>> 2011-02-28T22:53:35.919+0000: 263279.795: [GC 263279.795: [ParNew:
>>>>>>>> 19136K->1747K(19136K), 0.0037090 secs] 378685K->36129
>>>>>>>> 8K(641944K) icms_dc=0 , 0.0037920 secs] [Times: user=0.02 sys=0.00,
>>>>>>>> real=0.01 secs]
>>>>>>>> 11/02/28 22:53:36 INFO master.ServerManager: 9 region servers, 0 dead,
>>>>>>>> average load 760.2222222222222
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jean-Daniel Cryans 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Are you able to tell if that call in metaScanner is hanging or it's
>>>>>>>>> making multiple calls to the .META. region?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If former, then jstack the region server that hosts .META. and see
>>>>>>>>> where it's blocked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if latter, then it means your .META. region is slow? Again, what's
>>>>>>>>> going on on the RS that hosts .META.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finally, what's the master's log like during that time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> J-D,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks so much for your help so far! I sent disable commands on 4
>>>>>>>>>> rather small tables and they got stuck for a long time again, so I
>>>>>>>>>> took jstack of the master. From what I can tell, all disableTable
>>>>>>>>>> calls are blocked by a meta scanner thread (sample log below). At the
>>>>>>>>>> moment there were no other requests to the server at all. How should 
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> investigate this further? If it helps, here's some background: I have
>>>>>>>>>> several datasets, each of them is in a separate table; Our data
>>>>>>>>>> pipeline produces a new version of each dataset everyday and only the
>>>>>>>>>> lastest version should be used. This is how the data is loaded: for
>>>>>>>>>> each dataset 1) run a MR job and outputs HFiles 2) call loadTable.rb
>>>>>>>>>> to create a new table 3) disable and drop the previous version. As a
>>>>>>>>>> result some calls to load table and drop table would overlap. Please
>>>>>>>>>> let me know if something stands out to you as a potential culprit.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, I am running Hadoop 0.20.2 with HBase 0.20.6
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thread 47 (IPC Server handler 13 on 60000):
>>>>>>>>>>  State: BLOCKED
>>>>>>>>>>  Blocked count: 3801
>>>>>>>>>>  Waited count: 72719
>>>>>>>>>>  Blocked on java.lang.Object@75ac522c
>>>>>>>>>>  Blocked by 27 (RegionManager.metaScanner)
>>>>>>>>>>  Stack:
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.TableOperation.process(TableOperation.java:154)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.HMaster.disableTable(HMaster.java:842)
>>>>>>>>>>    sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor9.invoke(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>>>>    java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseRPC$Server.call(HBaseRPC.java:657)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseServer$Handler.run(HBaseServer.java:915)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thread 27 (RegionManager.metaScanner):
>>>>>>>>>>  State: WAITING
>>>>>>>>>>  Blocked count: 1526058
>>>>>>>>>>  Waited count: 1488998
>>>>>>>>>>  Waiting on org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseClient$Call@4dd44ab0
>>>>>>>>>>  Stack:
>>>>>>>>>>    java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>>    java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
>>>>>>>>>>    org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseClient.call(HBaseClient.java:722)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.ipc.HBaseRPC$Invoker.invoke(HBaseRPC.java:333)
>>>>>>>>>>    $Proxy1.get(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.BaseScanner.checkAssigned(BaseScanner.java:543)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.BaseScanner.scanRegion(BaseScanner.java:192)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.MetaScanner.scanOneMetaRegion(MetaScanner.java:73)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.MetaScanner.maintenanceScan(MetaScanner.java:129)
>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hbase.master.BaseScanner.chore(BaseScanner.java:153)
>>>>>>>>>>    org.apache.hadoop.hbase.Chore.run(Chore.java:68)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jean-Daniel Cryans
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> An hour to disable? That doesn't sound right at all :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would approach this problem like I generally do with HBase issue,
>>>>>>>>>>> first check the master log for any weirdness regarding my problem 
>>>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>>>> this case, grep for the table name).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then I would look the region server log(s) of the nodes that were
>>>>>>>>>>> hosting regions from that table. You should see the steps taken to
>>>>>>>>>>> disable the regions (starting to close, flush, region completely
>>>>>>>>>>> closed).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you are able to do it while it's taking a very long time to
>>>>>>>>>>> disable, try to jstack the process the seems to be hanging.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, like I said in another thread, there's a bug in 0.20.6 that
>>>>>>>>>>> almost prevent disabling a table (or re-enabling) if any region
>>>>>>>>>>> recently split and the parent wasn't cleaned yet from .META. and 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> is fixed in 0.90.1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> J-D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Nanheng Wu <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you are right, maybe in the long run I need to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-architect my
>>>>>>>>>>>> system so that it doesn't need to create new and delete old tables 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> the time. In the short term I am having a really hard time with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling function, I ran a disable command on a very small table
>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably dozen of MBs in size) and are no client using the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster at
>>>>>>>>>>>> all, and that took about 1 hour to complete! The weird thing is on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> web UI only the region server carrying the META table has non-zero
>>>>>>>>>>>> requests, all other RS have 0 requests the entire time. I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> they should get some request to flush the memstore at least. I *am*
>>>>>>>>>>>> using the same RS nodes for some map reduce job at the time and top
>>>>>>>>>>>> shows the memory usage is almost full on the META region. Would you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have some idea of what I should investigate?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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