If we can make a clean patch with minimal impact to existing code I would be 
supportive of a backport to 0.94.

-- Lars



----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Keller <brya...@gmail.com>
To: user@hbase.apache.org; lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: Poor HBase map-reduce scan performance

I tweaked Enis's snapshot input format and backported it to 0.94.6 and have 
snapshot scanning functional on my system. Performance is dramatically better, 
as expected i suppose. I'm seeing about 3.6x faster performance vs 
TableInputFormat. Also, HBase doesn't get bogged down during a scan as the 
regionserver is being bypassed. I'm very excited by this. There are some issues 
with file permissions and library dependencies but nothing that can't be worked 
out.

On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:03 PM, lars hofhansl <la...@apache.org> wrote:

> That's exactly the kind of pre-fetching I was investigating a bit ago (made a 
> patch, but ran out of time).
> This pre-fetching is strictly client only, where the client keeps the server 
> busy while it is processing the previous batch, but filling up a 2nd buffer.
> 
> 
> -- Lars
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Sandy Pratt <prat...@adobe.com>
> To: "user@hbase.apache.org" <user@hbase.apache.org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Poor HBase map-reduce scan performance
> 
> 
> Yong,
> 
> As a thought experiment, imagine how it impacts the throughput of TCP to
> keep the window size at 1.  That means there's only one packet in flight
> at a time, and total throughput is a fraction of what it could be.
> 
> That's effectively what happens with RPC.  The server sends a batch, then
> does nothing while it waits for the client to ask for more.  During that
> time, the pipe between them is empty.  Increasing the batch size can help
> a bit, in essence creating a really huge packet, but the problem remains.
> There will always be stalls in the pipe.
> 
> What you want is for the window size to be large enough that the pipe is
> saturated.  A streaming API accomplishes that by stuffing data down the
> network pipe as quickly as possible.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> On 6/5/13 7:55 AM, "yonghu" <yongyong...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone explain why client + rpc + server will decrease the performance
>> of scanning? I mean the Regionserver and Tasktracker are the same node
>> when
>> you use MapReduce to scan the HBase table. So, in my understanding, there
>> will be no rpc cost.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Yong
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Sandy Pratt <prat...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8691
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/4/13 6:11 PM, "Sandy Pratt" <prat...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Haven't had a chance to write a JIRA yet, but I thought I'd pop in here
>>>> with an update in the meantime.
>>>> 
>>>> I tried a number of different approaches to eliminate latency and
>>>> "bubbles" in the scan pipeline, and eventually arrived at adding a
>>>> streaming scan API to the region server, along with refactoring the
>>> scan
>>>> interface into an event-drive message receiver interface.  In so
>>> doing, I
>>>> was able to take scan speed on my cluster from 59,537 records/sec with
>>> the
>>>> classic scanner to 222,703 records per second with my new scan API.
>>>> Needless to say, I'm pleased ;)
>>>> 
>>>> More details forthcoming when I get a chance.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sandy
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/23/13 3:47 PM, "Ted Yu" <yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the update, Sandy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you can open a JIRA and attach your producer / consumer scanner
>>> there,
>>>>> that would be great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Sandy Pratt <prat...@adobe.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wrote myself a Scanner wrapper that uses a producer/consumer
>>> queue to
>>>>>> keep the client fed with a full buffer as much as possible.  When
>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>> my table with scanner caching at 100 records, I see about a 24%
>>> uplift
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> performance (~35k records/sec with the ClientScanner and ~44k
>>>>>> records/sec
>>>>>> with my P/C scanner).  However, when I set scanner caching to 5000,
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> more of a wash compared to the standard ClientScanner: ~53k
>>> records/sec
>>>>>> with the ClientScanner and ~60k records/sec with the P/C scanner.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure what to make of those results.  I think next I'll shut
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> HBase and read the HFiles directly, to see if there's a drop off in
>>>>>> performance between reading them directly vs. via the RegionServer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still think that to really solve this there needs to be sliding
>>>>>> window
>>>>>> of records in flight between disk and RS, and between RS and client.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> thinking there's probably a single batch of records in flight
>>> between
>>>>>> RS
>>>>>> and client at the moment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sandy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/23/13 8:45 AM, "Bryan Keller" <brya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am considering scanning a snapshot instead of the table. I
>>> believe
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is what the ExportSnapshot class does. If I could use the scanning
>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> from ExportSnapshot then I will be able to scan the HDFS files
>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>> and bypass the regionservers. This could potentially give me a huge
>>>>>> boost
>>>>>>> in performance for full table scans. However, it doesn't really
>>>>>> address
>>>>>>> the poor scan performance against a table.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 

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