Nasron,

Yeah, looks like you pretty much implemented pieces of logic being
discussed in HBASE-13103 :) So that's interesting, thanks for telling
us. Wondering, how did you estimate the number of desired regions?
Something like N * number of region servers, or something different?

"I couldn't find a tool to show regions and their sizes, for a specific
table, so ended up writing one."

I think this something which we definitely need to have in shell/web
(separate question of how to filter/page it if there are many
thousands regions). But that's probably different discussion. I can
open jira for that.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Nasron Cheong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find a tool to show regions and their sizes, for a specific
>> table, so ended up writing one.
>>
>
> Nasron,
>
> Would you mind having a look at the patch/RB on HBASE-13103? Does the API
> pair RegionNormalizer/Normalization plan look like a reasonable harness for
> you to hang your custom tool onto? Just like the balancer, it's designed to
> be extensible with different normalization strategies.
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Dejan Menges <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just have to say that hbase.master.loadbalance.bytable saved us after we
>> > discovered it. In our case we had to set it manually to true, and then it
>> > was easy to catch hot spotting on unusually large regions and handle it.
>> >
>> > Btw +1 for HBASE-13013, had to say it, something that makes me starting
>> > upgrading our HDP stack on Monday morning.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Bryan Beaudreault <
>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Just had to say, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-13103
>> looks
>> > > *AWESOME*
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:00 PM Mikhail Antonov <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Yeah, I could see 2 reasons for remaining few regions to take
>> > > > unproportionally long time - 1) those regions are unproportionally
>> > > > large (you should be able to quickly confirm it) and 2) they happened
>> > > > to be hosted on really slow/overloaded machine(s). #1 seems far more
>> > > > likely to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > And as Nick said, there's ongoing effort to provide exactly what
>> > > > you've described - centralized periodic analysis of region sizes and
>> > > > equalization as needed (somewhat complementary to balancing), and any
>> > > > feedback (especially from folks experiencing real issues with unequal
>> > > > region sizes) is much appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Mikhail
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > If you're interested in region size balancing, please have a look
>> at
>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-13103 . Please provide
>> > > > feedback
>> > > > > as we're hoping to have an early version available in 1.2.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Which reminds me, I owe Mikhail another review...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Elliott Clark <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> The balancer is not responsible fore region size decisions. The
>> > > > balancer is
>> > > > >> only responsible for deciding which regionservers should host
>> which
>> > > > >> regions.
>> > > > >> Splits are determined by data size of a region. See max store file
>> > > size.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Nasron Cheong <[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Hi,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I've noticed there are two settings available when using the
>> HBase
>> > > > >> balancer
>> > > > >> > (specifically the default stochastic balancer)
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > hbase.master.balancer.stochastic.tableSkewCost
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > hbase.master.loadbalance.bytable
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > How do these two settings relate? The documentation indicates
>> when
>> > > > using
>> > > > >> > the stochastic balancer that 'bytable' should be set to false?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Our deployment relies on very few, very large tables, and I've
>> > > noticed
>> > > > >> bad
>> > > > >> > distribution when accessing some of the tables. E.g. there are
>> 443
>> > > > >> regions
>> > > > >> > for a single table, but when doing a MR job over a full scan of
>> > the
>> > > > >> table,
>> > > > >> > the first 426 regions scan quickly (minutes), but the remaining
>> 17
>> > > > >> regions
>> > > > >> > take significantly longer (hours)
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > My expectation is to have the balancer equalize the size of the
>> > > > regions
>> > > > >> for
>> > > > >> > each table.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Thanks!
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > - Nasron
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Michael Antonov
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>



-- 
Thanks,
Michael Antonov

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