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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:41 PM, kishore g <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Vlad,
>
> I have some questions. Can you join the IRC channel #apachehelix.
>
> thanks,
> Kishore G
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:35 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Upon some further testing, it seems that the controller does not execute
>> the events in the right sequence.
>>
>> Here are the results of some of my testing. Assume that we have a
>> partition NEWPROFILE_5 with the ideal state:
>>
>>  "NEWPROFILE_5" : {
>>
>>       "pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000" : "SLAVE",
>>
>>       "pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000" : "MASTER"
>>
>>     }
>>
>> I boot the host pf1 and a few minutes later the host pf2. In the
>> controller logs I see, when doing a grep for NEWPROFILE_5:
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:04:35,309 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 69b4eddf-ac5f-4726-9d6b-bac742ad082e to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:SLAVE to:MASTER
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:27:08,187 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message a221b1ac-0807-425e-9062-6507e45b0bfb to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:OFFLINE
>> to:BOOTSTRAP
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:27:10,164 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 73ed85fd-49c9-46a5-b262-687d612c7d06 to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:BOOTSTRAP to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:27:11,868 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message fb21aecc-68cf-4b9f-9718-aa6ed535c29d to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:SLAVE to:MASTER
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:28:22,978 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message ea441d18-b1f3-4ceb-96a2-3262cab1dfbe to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:OFFLINE
>> to:BOOTSTRAP
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:28:22,978 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message f36b4d64-c790-413b-b9fa-915b9539d28c to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:MASTER to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:28:26,065 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 201429e1-e810-4017-b3ef-fb5930ac2192 to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:BOOTSTRAP to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-08 17:28:28,238 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 4a1fb64c-1063-4e49-a995-946d2dd25733 to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:SLAVE to:MASTER
>>
>> That is, the controller issues an offline->bootstrap command to pf-2, but
>> then issues a master->slave command to of-1 before bringing pf-2 up as a
>> slave as well (the last step before promotion to master). Since the
>> bootstrap->slave that follows takes time, the system spends time without a
>> master for the partition.
>>
>> The state model definition was:
>> public static StateModelDefinition defineStateModel() {
>> StateModelDefinition.Builder builder =
>>  new StateModelDefinition.Builder(KVHelixDefinitions.STATE_MODEL_NAME);
>> // Add states and their rank to indicate priority. Lower the rank higher
>> the
>>  // priority
>> builder.addState(MASTER, 1);
>> builder.addState(SLAVE, 2);
>>  builder.addState(BOOTSTRAP, 3);
>> builder.addState(OFFLINE);
>> builder.addState(DROPPED);
>>  // Set the initial state when the node starts
>> builder.initialState(OFFLINE);
>>
>> // Add transitions between the states.
>>  builder.addTransition(OFFLINE, BOOTSTRAP, 3);
>> builder.addTransition(BOOTSTRAP, SLAVE, 2);
>> builder.addTransition(SLAVE, MASTER, 1);
>>  builder.addTransition(MASTER, SLAVE, 4);
>> builder.addTransition(SLAVE, OFFLINE, 5);
>> builder.addTransition(OFFLINE, DROPPED, 6);
>>
>> // set constraints on states.
>> // static constraint
>> builder.upperBound(MASTER, 1);
>>  // dynamic constraint, R means it should be derived based on the
>> replication
>> // factor.
>>  builder.dynamicUpperBound(SLAVE, "R");
>>
>> StateModelDefinition statemodelDefinition = builder.build();
>>
>> assert(statemodelDefinition.isValid());
>>
>> return statemodelDefinition;
>> }
>>
>> I have tried reversing the values of the transition priorities. In this
>> case, the controller log file looked as follows:
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:17:52,831 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 2b29a319-c1c6-4042-b1ad-3e3c1b5092a7 to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:OFFLINE
>> to:BOOTSTRAP
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:17:55,672 (Thread-2) MessageGenerationStage INFO: Message
>> hasn't been removed for pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 to transitNEWPROFILE_5
>> to BOOTSTRAP, desiredState: MASTER
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:17:57,047 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message b1ca701d-65f1-46b9-9ae4-286400d6d266 to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:BOOTSTRAP to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:17:58,888 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message fe10228f-8f5b-4133-964a-5f6c7e60b0e6 to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:SLAVE to:MASTER
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:23:26,117 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 6252a4e6-0ab8-490a-a51d-c47195c434b5 to
>> pf1.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:MASTER to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:23:26,117 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 18bbf028-cb51-4162-8226-a6564a121986 to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:OFFLINE
>> to:BOOTSTRAP
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:23:33,462 (Thread-2) MessageGenerationStage INFO: Message
>> hasn't been removed for pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 to transitNEWPROFILE_5
>> to BOOTSTRAP, desiredState: MASTER
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:23:33,892 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message c7fc4983-9d71-4dc4-bfee-2ad69e4de411 to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:BOOTSTRAP to:SLAVE
>>
>> 2014-04-09 11:23:35,933 (Thread-2) TaskAssignmentStage INFO: Sending
>> Message 75e715ed-3d53-4e39-b1e7-44695e4bfa03 to
>> pf2.apps-pf.dev.docker_12000 transit NEWPROFILE_5|[] from:SLAVE to:MASTER
>>
>> That is, the transition for master->slave for pf1 was executed before
>> taking any action on pf2, clearly the opposite of the right order.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Kanak Biscuitwala <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Looks good, thanks for sharing!
>>>
>>> Kanak
>>> ________________________________
>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:08:28 -0700
>>> > Subject: Re: keeping the master node up during bootstrap
>>> > From: [email protected]
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> >
>>> > My modified code looks like:
>>> >
>>> > /* Setup a Helix cluster for the KVStore */
>>> > public static void setupCluster() {
>>> > assert(cluster != null);
>>> > clusterSetup.addCluster(cluster, true);
>>> >
>>> > а а а а ConstraintItemBuilder constraintItemBuilder = new
>>> > ConstraintItemBuilder();
>>> >
>>> > а а а а constraintItemBuilder
>>> > а а а а а а а а
>>> > .addConstraintAttribute(ConstraintAttribute.MESSAGE_TYPE.toString(),
>>> > "STATE_TRANSITION")
>>> > а а а а а а а а
>>> > .addConstraintAttribute(ConstraintAttribute.PARTITION.toString(), ".*")
>>> > а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> .addConstraintAttribute(ConstraintAttribute.CONSTRAINT_VALUE.toString(),
>>> > "1");
>>> >
>>> > а а а а clusterSetup.getClusterManagementTool().setConstraint(cluster,
>>> > а а а а а а а а ClusterConstraints.ConstraintType.MESSAGE_CONSTRAINT,
>>> > а а а а а а а а "constraint1", constraintItemBuilder.build());
>>> > а а }
>>> >
>>> > I will try to see whether it works in every situation.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vlad
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Vlad Balan
>>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Kishore,
>>> >
>>> > I managed to implement the bootstrapping using the constraint and it
>>> > appears to be running as expected. I will post my code shortly.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vlad
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 8, 2014, at 8:27 AM, kishore g
>>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Vlad,
>>> >
>>> > Did you get a chance to play with the constraint.а I can write a sample
>>> > code today to try this.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Kishore G
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM,
>>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thank you Kanak and Kishore! I will try enforcing the per-partition
>>> > constraint and let you know if somehow it does not work. I was looking
>>> > at the throttling documentation, but somehow missed that a
>>> > per-partition constraint was an option!
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vlad
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM, kishore g
>>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Vlad,
>>> >
>>> > You can try setting the transition priority order and a constraint that
>>> > there should be only one transition per partition across the cluster.
>>> >
>>> > So the transition priority could be something like
>>> >
>>> > Slave-Master
>>> > Offfline -> Bootstrap
>>> > Bootstrap->Slave
>>> > Slave->Master
>>> >
>>> > For the rest not sure if order matters.
>>> >
>>> > Also set the max transitions constraint to 1 per partition.
>>> >
>>> > The reason I put Slave-Master before Offline->Bootstrap is to ensure
>>> > that availability is given more importance. For example if you have 3
>>> > nodes, N1, N2, N3. N1 is Master, N2 is Slave, and N3 is down. If N1
>>> > goes down and N3 comes up at the same time. We probably dont want to
>>> > wait for N3 to bootstrap before promoting N2 to Master.
>>> >
>>> > I haven't tested this but assuming the constraints enforcement works,
>>> > this should do the trick.
>>> >
>>> > Does this make sense? Let me know if this does not work, we can add a
>>> > test case.
>>> >
>>> > thanks,
>>> > Kishore G
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM,
>>> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > I am trying to construct a state model with the following transition
>>> diagram:
>>> >
>>> > OFFLINE -> BOOTSTRAPPING <---> SLAVE <-----> MASTER
>>> > а а а а а<-----------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > That is, an offline mode can go into a bootstraping state, from the
>>> > bootstrap state it can go into a slave state,
>>> > from slave it can go from master, from master to slave and from slave
>>> > it can go offline.
>>> >
>>> > Assume that if I have a partition with two nodes pf1 and pf2 and a
>>> > partition partition_0 with the following ideal state:
>>> >
>>> > partition_0: pf2: MASTER pf1: SLAVE,
>>> >
>>> > and that currently pf1 is serving as a master. When pf2 boots, Helix
>>> > will issue, almost simultaneously, two commands:
>>> > for pf1: transition from MASTER to SLAVE
>>> > for pf2: transition from BOOTSTRAPPING to SLAVE
>>> >
>>> > My understanding is that this happens since Helix is trying to execute
>>> > as many commands in parallel and since the last state
>>> > has pf2 as master. However, the transition from BOOTSTRAPPING to SLAVE
>>> > for pf2 involves a long data copy step, so
>>> > I would like to keep pf1 as a master in the meanwhile. I tried
>>> > prioritizing the transition from BOOTSTRAPPING to SLAVE
>>> > over the transition from MASTER to SLAVE, however Helix still issues
>>> > them in parallel (as it should).
>>> >
>>> > I was wondering what my options would be in order to keep the master up
>>> > while the future master is bootstrapping. Could
>>> > a throttling in the number of transitions be enforced at partition
>>> > level? Could I somehow specify that a state with a slave
>>> > and a bootstrapping node is undesirable?
>>> >
>>> > As a note, I have also looked at the RSync-replicateed filesystem
>>> > example. The reason for not using the OfflineOnline or the
>>> > MasterSlave model in my application is that I would like the
>>> > bootstrapping node to receive updates from clients, i.e. be visible
>>> > during the bootstrap. For this reason, I am introducing the new
>>> > BOOTSTRAPPING phase in-between OFFLINE and SLAVE.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Vlad
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > PS: The state model definition is as follows:
>>> >
>>> > builder.addState(MASTER, 1); а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addState(SLAVE, 2);а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addState(BOOTSTRAP, 3);а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addState(OFFLINE); а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addState(DROPPED); а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // Set the initial state when the node startsа а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.initialState(OFFLINE); а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > аа а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // Add transitions between the states. а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(OFFLINE, BOOTSTRAP, 4);а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(BOOTSTRAP, SLAVE, 5);а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(SLAVE, MASTER, 6); а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(MASTER, SLAVE, 3); а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(SLAVE, OFFLINE, 2);а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.addTransition(OFFLINE, DROPPED, 1);а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > аа а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // set constraints on states.а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // static constraint а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.upperBound(MASTER, 1); а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // dynamic constraint, R means it should be derived based
>>> > on the replication а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а // factor. а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> > а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> > а а а а а а builder.dynamicUpperBound(SLAVE, "R");а а а а а а а а а а а
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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