Thanks, Edward and Ashutosh

Ashutosh,
yes, I do not understand why the service "hiveserver" still uses a Derby instance even through it should be talking to the service "metastore". Btw, if I run the hiveserver without having started the metastore service, the hiveserver complains when I try to let it execute a HiveQL command through JDBC:

...
org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.HiveException: MetaException(message:Could not connect to meta store using any of the URIs provided) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.getTablesByPattern(Hive.java:919)
...
(full stacktrace at the end of this post)

which is exactly what I expect and which makes me somewhat confident that I have configured things correctly.

The entire issue came up, because the hiveserver service did not work, when started from the same directory, from which the metastore service had been started. It turned out that this was because both services were trying to setup a Derby instance in the current dir and therefore ran into a file locking situation. I have worked around this by starting the two services from different directories, but I am worried that I'd be missing an important point in my setup.

When I run "pfiles <pid of hiveserver>" it lists these files for the hiveserver service (which should not need a Derby instance, as far as I understood):
      ...tons of jars...
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/derby.log
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/log/log1.dat
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/dbex.lck
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/seg0/c191.dat
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/seg0/c1a1.dat
      ...
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/seg0/c431.dat
      /home/hadoop/hive_admin/metastore_db/seg0/c451.dat

Any pointers appreciated. If anybody things this is a bug, I can file one.

Thanks,
Christian


full stacktrace:

Hive history file=/tmp/hadoop/hive_job_log_hadoop_201108242305_155100916.txt
FAILED: Error in semantic analysis: Table not found weblog
org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.HiveException: MetaException(message:Could not connect to meta store using any of the URIs provided) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.getTablesByPattern(Hive.java:919) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.getTablesByPattern(Hive.java:904) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.parse.SemanticAnalyzer.analyzeCreateTable(SemanticAnalyzer.java:7074) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.parse.SemanticAnalyzer.analyzeInternal(SemanticAnalyzer.java:6573) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.parse.BaseSemanticAnalyzer.analyze(BaseSemanticAnalyzer.java:238)
        at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.Driver.compile(Driver.java:340)
        at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.Driver.run(Driver.java:736)
at org.apache.hadoop.hive.service.HiveServer$HiveServerHandler.execute(HiveServer.java:116) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.service.ThriftHive$Processor$execute.process(ThriftHive.java:699) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.service.ThriftHive$Processor.process(ThriftHive.java:677) at org.apache.thrift.server.TThreadPoolServer$WorkerProcess.run(TThreadPoolServer.java:253) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:886) at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:908)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
Caused by: MetaException(message:Could not connect to meta store using any of the URIs provided) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.metastore.HiveMetaStoreClient.open(HiveMetaStoreClient.java:183) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.metastore.HiveMetaStoreClient.<init>(HiveMetaStoreClient.java:151) at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.createMetaStoreClient(Hive.java:1855)
        at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.getMSC(Hive.java:1865)
at org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.Hive.getTablesByPattern(Hive.java:917)
        ... 13 more
FAILED: Error in metadata: MetaException(message:Could not connect to meta store using any of the URIs provided) FAILED: Execution Error, return code 1 from org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.exec.DDLTask



On 25.08.2011 01:29, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote:
Edward,

Apart from recommended best practices what Christian is asking for is why HiveServer is still trying to interact with local db instance even after setting the config variables. AFAIK it should not. Christian, you found that out by looking at files opened by HiveServer jvm. Can you provide more info there like how did you find that out and which these files are?

Ashutosh

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 14:20, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com <mailto:edlinuxg...@gmail.com>> wrote:



    On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Christian Kurz <crk...@gmx.de
    <mailto:crk...@gmx.de>> wrote:


        Thanks for the quick reply, Edward

        I am not sure I got you: My HiveService has been started with
        hive.metastore.local=false. So shouldn't it use thrift instead
        of its own local Derby instance?

        Thanks,
        Christian

        Am 24.08.2011 um 19:33 schrieb Edward Capriolo
        <edlinuxg...@gmail.com <mailto:edlinuxg...@gmail.com>>:



        On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Christian Kurz
        <crk...@gmx.de <mailto:crk...@gmx.de>> wrote:

            Greetings,

            could somebody confirm/correct my understanding of a
            fully distributed Hive setup, please?

            My setup is as follows

                * *Java application using Hive JDBC driver *connects to
                * *hive --service hiveserver*, which connects to
                * *hive --service metastore*, which uses an embedded
                  Derby database for metadata storage

            Please find more details in the image attached.

            The thing I find confusing is that JVM2 (Hive Server)
            starts up a Derby database instance. I can see that from
            the files the JVM has opened.

            Does anybody know, why the Hive Server needs a Derby
            instance even though hive-site.xml says:
            hive.metastore.local=false ?

            Any hints are much appreciated.

            Thanks,
            Christian

            btw,
            I have not been able to access the picture on the wiki
            
<https://cwiki.apache.org/Hive/adminmanual-metastoreadmin.html#AdminManualMetastoreAdmin-MetastoreDeploymentOptionsinPictures>.
            ("Not permitted"; even though I have registered on the wiki)



        hive.metastore.local is really misnamed.

        local=true means communicate using datanucleus/JPOX and
        talking directly to the metastore.

        local=false means use thrift which is essentially a level of
        indirection.

    Talking about HiveService can confuse things because HiveService
    is a different thrift interface.

    You could be setup like this:
    HiveServiceClient->HiveService->metastore.local=true->derby
    or
    HiveServiceClient->HiveService->metastore.local=false>thrift->hive_metastore

    most people are setup like this:

    HiveServiceClient->HiveService->metastore.local=true->mysql
    cli->metastore.local=true->mysql



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