What I mean by isolation is that they do not try to automatically discover each 
other. They only form a cluster manually when triggered.


> Am 01.12.2015 um 13:58 schrieb Denis Magda <[email protected]>:
> 
> fsapei,
> 
> What do you mean under isolation between two different caches?
> All the caches live they own life and don't affect each other.
> 
> --
> Denis
> 
> On 12/1/2015 12:08 PM, Ferry Syafei Sapei wrote:
>> Thank you for your idea. Your solution should work.
>> 
>> May it be possible to perform the following operation?
>> - Create a new cache and isolate it from being replicated with the old cache.
>> - Populate data on new cache
>> - Shutdown old cache and remove the new cache isolation.
>> 
>> fsapei
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 30.11.2015 um 12:51 schrieb Denis Magda <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>> 
>>> Fsapei,
>>> 
>>> Ignite neither supports a cache renaming nor has a notion of aliases for 
>>> caches.
>>> 
>>> In general you can support aliases-like functionality by extending Ignite's 
>>> JDBC Driver implementation.
>>> The flow should look like this:
>>> - create a new cache and populate it;
>>> - redirect all the queries to the new cache. To achieve this the code has 
>>> to parse a SQL query string and exchange an aliase name with a real cache 
>>> name;
>>> - delete the old cache. 
>>> 
>>> Will this work for you?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Denis
>>> 
>>> On 11/30/2015 2:22 PM, Ferry Syafei Sapei wrote:
>>>> Hi Denis,
>>>> 
>>>> Using a database, we can import new data to new tables and then rename the 
>>>> table.
>>>> 
>>>> In ElasticSearch, there is an alias. The client executes queries against 
>>>> index alias. On the background, the alias will point to the actual index. 
>>>> In my use case, I just need to create a new index and then update the 
>>>> alias’ reference to the new index. The client does not realize that the 
>>>> index has been changed, since it only communicates with the alias.
>>>> 
>>>> Are there these kind of operations in apache ignite?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> fsapei
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 30.11.2015 um 11:57 schrieb Denis Magda <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Fsapei,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think that it's feasible or at least easy to implement your 
>>>>> approach without a downtime or changing cache name in queries once the 
>>>>> second cache is fully propagated.
>>>>> How would you implement your use case if instead of an Ignite cache you 
>>>>> would be using a data base? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Denis
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/28/2015 11:50 AM, Ferry Syafei Sapei wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you for the reply. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The client uses JDBC Driver to get the data from Ignite. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The swap between new cache and old cache should be hidden from the 
>>>>>> client.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would it be possible to do this in Ignite?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My first idea is to create a new cache and fill it with new data data. 
>>>>>> Afterwards, within a transaction, the old cache content will be deleted 
>>>>>> and all the content from new cache will be inserted to the old cache. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 28.11.2015 um 03:35 schrieb Dmitriy Setrakyan < 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Fsapei,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ignite supports dynamic caches, so you can create and destroy caches on 
>>>>>>> the fly:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/data-grid#section-jcache>https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/data-grid#section-jcache
>>>>>>>  <https://apacheignite.readme.io/docs/data-grid#section-jcache>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To support your use case, you can:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. create a new cache and start populating it
>>>>>>> 2. while the new cache is populated, the queries should go to the old 
>>>>>>> cache.
>>>>>>> 3. when new cache is fully populated, route the queries to the new cache
>>>>>>> 4. delete the old cache
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Will this work?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Ferry Syafei Sapei < 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hallo,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to use Ignite as Data Grid. The cache will be initially 
>>>>>>> loaded with a lot of data (e.g. a CSV file with a size more than 10 GB).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When a new CSV file is available, the current Cache content must be 
>>>>>>> replaced with the new data from the new CSV. The old cache content must 
>>>>>>> be completely deleted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The switch from old cache content to the new one must happen without 
>>>>>>> downtime. When any SQL Clients execute query during the switch, they 
>>>>>>> should still obtain any data from the old cache content, since the 
>>>>>>> switch has not finished yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could somebody please advise me, how to continuously update the cache 
>>>>>>> like the description above?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> fsapei
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Denis Magda
>>>>> Lead Professional Services Engineer, GridGain Systems
>>>>> http://www.gridgain.com/ <http://www.gridgain.com/>
>> 

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