Hi,

For calling the function createMissingCaches(), it will create a cache in
client node.
Is this cache permanent exist in client node or will drop after sometime?

Thanks & Best regards,
Charles


2017-04-13 21:09 GMT+08:00 afedotov <alexander.fedot...@gmail.com>:

> Created a ticket for the issue IGNITE-4957
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-4957>
>
> Kind regards,
> Alex.
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Sergi Vladykin [via Apache Ignite Users]
> <[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11947&i=0>>
> wrote:
>
>> Alex, I think we have to create an issue in Jira. This behavior looks
>> suboptimal to me.
>>
>> Sergi
>>
>> 2017-04-13 15:12 GMT+03:00 afedotov <[hidden email]
>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11942&i=0>>:
>>
>>> Charles,
>>>
>>> In your case, you have many caches registered on server nodes (debug
>>> shows me about 80) which are to be created on
>>> the client. These caches don't participate in common activities, instead
>>> they are used to prepare execution plan.
>>> As for now, a separate request is sent to remote nodes for each
>>> unregistered cache.
>>> You can use client mode, but you need to register all the missing caches
>>> before running queries.
>>> After loading missing caches explicitly the time reduced to 50-60ms in
>>> client mode.
>>>
>>> I've used a trick to avoid declaring all the caches in configuration
>>> file or calling getOrCreateCache for each of them.
>>> To give it a try, just add the line below before the queries execution
>>> logic in your example.
>>> IgniteStorage.getInstance().getIgniteCache(Quote.class.getName(), 0
>>> ).unwrap(IgniteCacheProxy.class).context().kernalContext().
>>> cache().createMissingCaches();
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:08 AM, woo charles [via Apache Ignite Users]
>>> <[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11941&i=0>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "If you select some data from the joined table it leads to all dynamic
>>>> cache creation requests being sent" <-- is that mean the client node will
>>>> copy the selected table to local?
>>>>
>>>> If I set false to client mode, it will become server node and
>>>> start participate in caching, compute execution, stream processing, etc.,
>>>> Then it will affect the performance of my client program. How can I
>>>> prevent this?
>>>>
>>>> 2017-04-13 14:24 GMT+08:00 afedotov <[hidden email]
>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11926&i=0>>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sergi, when join query is called from client
>>>>> It leads to createMissingCaches being called which makes a remote
>>>>> requests of a dynamic cache creation for each registered but not enabled
>>>>> cache and since there is a cache for each entity there are many requests 
>>>>> to
>>>>> server nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles,
>>>>> If you select some data from the joined table it leads to all dynamic
>>>>> cache creation requests being sent therefore allowing to skip these on the
>>>>> next query runs.
>>>>> To disable client mode in your example just pass false to
>>>>> Ignition.setClientMode(true)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 13 апр. 2017 г. 5:22 AM пользователь "woo charles [via Apache Ignite
>>>>> Users]" <[hidden email]
>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11925&i=0>> написал:
>>>>>
>>>>> I found that this time can be reduced to a value below 100ms if I
>>>>> already selected some data from join query related table.
>>>>> For example,
>>>>> if I run 2 query "select * from Quote where stock_id = xxx" & "Select
>>>>> * from StockInfo where stock_id = xxx"  first and then run the join query,
>>>>> the time for 1st join query will become similar to other(around 10 -20
>>>>> ms).
>>>>> Why will it happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, How to run queries from a server node? I had try
>>>>> "ignite.compute().run()" but it doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks& best regards,
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-04-13 0:48 GMT+08:00 Sergi Vladykin <[hidden email]
>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11922&i=0>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do we have such a huge difference between client nodes and server
>>>>>> nodes? Looks like we should fix it if possible. Even 7 seconds looks too
>>>>>> much for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sergi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-04-12 18:11 GMT+03:00 afedotov <[hidden email]
>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11922&i=1>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are running the query from a client node what implies additional
>>>>>>> network round trips.
>>>>>>> Try to run queries from a server node. In my environment it reduced
>>>>>>> the time from about 7 seconds to 220ms for the first run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:21 AM, woo charles [via Apache Ignite
>>>>>>> Users] <[hidden email]
>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11908&i=0>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sorry for wrong calculation *
>>>>>>>> *-> (i.e. 3 Server node stored 236MB [2.2MB * 20 table +3.2MB * 60
>>>>>>>> table] data)*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Best Regards,*
>>>>>>>> *Charles*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-04-12 10:17 GMT+08:00 woo charles <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11896&i=0>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Source
>>>>>>>>> code: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_-zUEFkybdLQVF4U2dwTE11ajA
>>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_-zUEFkybdLQVF4U2dwTE11ajA>*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Below is a screen cap on GridGain's web console & the log of my
>>>>>>>>> client program. *
>>>>>>>>> *(i.e. 3 Server node stored 756MB [2.2MB * 10 table +3.2MB * 30
>>>>>>>>> table] data)*
>>>>>>>>> [image: 內置圖片 2]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apr 12, 2017 9:50:10 AM java.util.logging.LogManager$RootLogger
>>>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>>>> SEVERE: Failed to resolve default logging config file:
>>>>>>>>> config/java.util.logging.properties
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]    __________  ________________
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]   /  _/ ___/ |/ /  _/_  __/ __/
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]  _/ // (7 7    // /  / / / _/
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] /___/\___/_/|_/___/ /_/ /___/
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] ver. 1.8.0#20161205-sha1:9ca40dbe
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] 2016 Copyright(C) Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] Ignite documentation: http://ignite.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] Quiet mode.
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]   ^-- To see **FULL** console log here add
>>>>>>>>> -DIGNITE_QUIET=false or "-v" to ignite.{sh|bat}
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] OS: Linux 3.10.0-123.el7.x86_64 amd64
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] VM information: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment
>>>>>>>>> 1.8.0_121-b13 Oracle Corporation Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
>>>>>>>>> 25.121-b13
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] Initial heap size is 128MB (should be no less than
>>>>>>>>> 512MB, use -Xms512m -Xmx512m).
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] Configured plugins:
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]   ^-- None
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:10] Security status [authentication=off, tls/ssl=off]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:11] To start Console Management & Monitoring run
>>>>>>>>> ignitevisorcmd.{sh|bat}
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:11]
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:11] Ignite node started OK (id=b663472c)
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:11] Topology snapshot [ver=19, servers=3, clients=1,
>>>>>>>>> CPUs=8, heap=3.1GB]
>>>>>>>>> PreLoadDataSize = 10000
>>>>>>>>> NumOfTest = 2
>>>>>>>>> /----------------------- Test 0 -----------------------\
>>>>>>>>> Name = SQL_Select_2_Join_10
>>>>>>>>> ActionType = SQL_SELECT_2_JOIN
>>>>>>>>> Object class = com.performance.test.dao.Quote
>>>>>>>>> Thread Size = 80
>>>>>>>>> [09:50:20] New version is available at ignite.apache.org: 1.9.0
>>>>>>>>> MaxTime(First Time): 12710
>>>>>>>>> Thread [SQL_Select_2_Join_10] Average Time: 18.913ms - 0.018913s,
>>>>>>>>> Max Time: 183ms
>>>>>>>>> \-----------------------------------------------------/
>>>>>>>>> /----------------------- Test 1 -----------------------\
>>>>>>>>> Name = QUERY_Quote_price_large_1000_Small_950
>>>>>>>>> ActionType = QUERY
>>>>>>>>> Object class = com.performance.test.dao.Quote
>>>>>>>>> Thread Size = 80
>>>>>>>>> MaxTime(First Time): 30
>>>>>>>>> Thread [QUERY_Quote_price_large_1000_Small_950] Average Time:
>>>>>>>>> 118.752ms - 0.118752s, Max Time: 1094ms
>>>>>>>>> \-----------------------------------------------------/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Also, I found that 1st **SQL J**oin query time reduced about 2 -
>>>>>>>>> 3s if my program's memory **increase** from 128mb to 1gb.*
>>>>>>>>> *Is it show that this problem is due to client side not server
>>>>>>>>> side?*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Best Regards,*
>>>>>>>>> *Charles*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-11 23:29 GMT+08:00 afedotov <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11896&i=1>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not able to reproduce the timings you specified. Probably I
>>>>>>>>>> do something wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> Could you please provide a log for that case?
>>>>>>>>>> Also, it would be of great help if you provide the reproducer
>>>>>>>>>> sources.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 4:57 AM, woo charles [via Apache Ignite
>>>>>>>>>> Users] <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11889&i=0>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My testing program: https://drive.google.com/open?
>>>>>>>>>>> id=0B_-zUEFkybdLcW5LR3RXZnJfOFE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It runs on linux system with 8cpu 24gb ram.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 Server node(each 1 gb) are created.
>>>>>>>>>>> 20 set tables created(ie. 1 set table contain table
>>>>>>>>>>> Quote, StockInfo, BidAskBrokerQueue, PreviousQuote which mean 20*4 
>>>>>>>>>>> = 80
>>>>>>>>>>> table created)
>>>>>>>>>>> Each table will insert 10000 records.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After inserted data, sql join "select q.stock_id, q.price ,
>>>>>>>>>>> s.symbol from Quote0.Quote as q, StockInfo0.StockInfo as s where
>>>>>>>>>>>  q.stock_id = s.stock_id and q.stock_id = XXX" is perform.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And about 13s is needed for the first sql query.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-10 14:53 GMT+08:00 Sergi Vladykin <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11870&i=0>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think 13s is still too much. Can you share a reproducer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sergi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-10 9:51 GMT+03:00 afedotov <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11870&i=1>>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is an expected behavior. On the first run a query is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parsed and metadata is built for it what takes some additional 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compared to the following runs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 апр. 2017 г. 8:13 AM пользователь "woo charles [via Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ignite Users]" <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=11848&i=0>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> написал:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I set up 3 Server nodes(8 cpu, 1gb ram) in the same server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 table each 10000 rows are entered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I perform a *SQL Join* query on two table and run it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100 times, I found that the first query is much slower than 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other(i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First query used 13s & other used around 0.02s).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why will it happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I reduce the running time on 1st query?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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