About point 2.
Actually we don’t even need to define “And” synonyms and we
just adopt the convention that if a step has none of the “Given/When/Then/And”
keywords
in front then by default is should be considered an “And”. I don’t think this
would be hard to implement and in my opinion would make our stories really
sound natural.
Cheers,
Julian
--- On Tue, 12/2/13, Mauro Talevi <mauro.tal...@aquilonia.org> wrote:
From: Mauro Talevi <mauro.tal...@aquilonia.org>
Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword
To: user@jbehave.codehaus.org
Received: Tuesday, 12 February, 2013, 1:54 AM
1. Yes, I agree - GivenStory syntax is often preferable to be a
declarative precondition rather than setup/teardown paradigm which
is more akin to unit testing.
2. The synonyms of 'And' are definitely easier to implement
because they map to pre-defined types.
Please raise a JIRA issue for it.
On 11/02/2013 11:05, Iulian Greculescu wrote:
@Handa,
If I understand well the sub scenario need this can be
achieved by including that sub scenario part of a
standalone story and then making your each scenario that
has your sub scenario a prerequest running with a
GivenStories pointing to that common story.
We applied this lots of time when exercising a banking
system.
Say you have the user login story your common thing and
then you have: a BPay payment, a Bank Transfer, an
International Payment, etc. All these scenarios would gave
a GivenStories UserLoginStory, etc
@Mauro
The user defined keyword attracted my attention quite a
lot. I accept that you can describe a business case just
using Given/When/Then/And suite. However when the scenario
you need to write is a long one (say 30 or more steps) I
have to accept that the story starts sounding a bit to
fade (say made up). It works but....:)
When this post came I was just about to come up with an
idea/proposal to bring some spice in our stories and make
them sounds more natural. What about including the
flexibility of defining "And" synonyms with exactly the
same functionality as the actual "And"?
So you can say something like this:
Given our Payments system supports SWIFT messages
When a FX transaction message arrives
And the "from" currency is USD
And the "to" currency is GBP
And the exchange rate is 0.71002
And the transaction date is the next business day
And the transaction amount is $200.00
And the payer account no is 1234567890
....
And 30 others "when" steps describing the Foreigner
Exchange message
Then.....
Someone would say (me included) that if I can say "With'
and "Having" are synonyms of "And" and rewrite the story
like below then it would sound more natural.
Given our Payments system supports SWIFT messages
When a FX transaction message arrives
Having the "from" currency as USD
And the "to" currency as GBP
With an exchange rate is 0.71002
......
What do u think? I was thinking to research a bit how
difficult that would be.
Regards,
Julian
--- On Mon, 11/2/13, Mauro Talevi <mauro.tal...@aquilonia.org>
wrote:
From: Mauro Talevi <mauro.tal...@aquilonia.org>
Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User defined keyword
To: user@jbehave.codehaus.org
Received: Monday, 11 February, 2013, 2:36 AM
You can request new features on JIRA:
http://jbehave.org/issue-tracking.html
That said, your features require substantial
changes and are more likely to be considered for
the 4.x releases.
On 10/02/2013 15:13, Handa, Ramneek wrote:
I would love to have
ability to write a sub scenario which is a
part of many scenarios so as to avoid
repetition.
@Before/@AfterScenario/...
– as a coder of my tool I wouldn’t know what
the story writer would like to do at
teardown and setup.
Unfortunately these
two are very basic needs for me to use
JBehave. Is it not done because its complex
given how JBehave is implemented or has it
never been the priority?
I can write my
requirement and file an issue if you think
this can be supported soon?
Regards
From: Mauro Talevi
[mailto:mauro.tal...@aquilonia.org]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013
10:39 PM
To: user@jbehave.codehaus.org
Subject: Re: [jbehave-user] User
defined keyword
You can
define "composite steps" from other defined
steps:
http://jbehave.org/reference/stable/composite-steps.html
User-defined keywords are not supported, the
only keywords allowed in the scenario steps
are "Given/When/Then/And" but the rest of
the step language is entire up to you to
define. You can also change the existing
ones, ie use different values for them, via
i18n support. The idea being that
Given/When/Then represent generic step types
(precondition/event/result) and you should
be able to fit comfortably into these types
by appropriate use of the step language that
follows.
There is no setup/teardown in the story
syntax, i.e. something executed before and
after *each* scenario or story. There is
however :
- GivenStories ... i.e. one or more stories
executed on demand (i.e. on explicit
invocation) before scenarios or stories.
- @Before/@AfterScenario/Story/Stories ...
i.e. annotated steps in code that are
executed before each scenario/story/group of
stories
On 10/02/2013 13:59, Handa, Ramneek wrote:
Hi Guys,
Is it possible for
the story writer to create new higher
level steps (which consists of multiple
steps)? I am moving from robot framework
and it has this feature of user defined
keywords that i couldn’t find in jbehave
website. Could someone please point me in
the right direction?
Also, i would like
to know if there is a way for story writer
to write setup/teardown in gherkin?
Regards,
Ramneek
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