+ Adrian

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Vineet Saini <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> At some point I read that got some resource from vmware to finally support
> vcloud with Jcloud? Not able to find that communication, is that true or we
> still continuing with deprecating support for vcloud?
>
> Also for my solution, I need to support it to work with VCloud Director.
> Any recommendation on jcloud version where to start with? This is for
> private VCloud setup.
>
> I have limited requirement to use jcloud api to create/delete node on
> demand and perform configuration accordingly.
>
> Vineet
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Duncan Johnston Watt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Vineet
>>
>> Reality is that VMware have failed to step up.
>>
>> The guy we thought could be our internal champion at VMware has left!!
>>
>> Cloudsoft intends to continue to provide VMware support for specific
>> customers but as Adrian has noted this will have to be done in a separate
>> fork or via alternative means.
>>
>> VMware clearly has no respect for the community effort or the value of
>> jclouds which is a shocker especially compared with other folk like HP,
>> Google and Rackspace.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Duncan
>>
>> On 18 November 2014 at 16:19, Vineet Saini <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure If I read it right, does this mean VCloud support will be
>>> removed in 1.8.x onward?
>>>
>>> This will be big dent for Jcloud users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Adrian Cole <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TL;DR;
>>>>
>>>> jclouds will stop maintaining vcloud in 1.8.x. We will remove vcloud
>>>> (and the vcloud-director labs provider) in version 1.9.0.
>>>>
>>>> Our vcloud codebase is old, unsupported by cloud providers and a
>>>> crippling maintenance debt on the project. If we want jclouds to
>>>> endure, we have to make difficult decisions such as this.
>>>>
>>>> The removal of vcloud is being tracked in the following jira
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-780
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -A
>>>>
>>>> Here's a copy of the description of JCLOUDS-780
>>>>
>>>> For over a month, we've discussed the fate of vcloud [1]. For example,
>>>> we've already removed all vcloud providers as they no longer work with
>>>> version 1.0 [2]. Also users who contact us either run custom forks
>>>> [3], or also find features they need missing [4].
>>>>
>>>> Eventhough the replacement code was supposed to be vcloud-director, it
>>>> has never left labs, and has too much technical debt to continue
>>>> attempting to support [5].
>>>>
>>>> A couple stakeholders have offered they may be able to help [6], or
>>>> encourage vmware to add a new api to cover modern products [7].
>>>>
>>>> Good wishes aside, the facts remain that we have 2 aging apis, that
>>>> are unsupportable in current form. Keeping vcloud and vcloud-director
>>>> codebases limits the project's ability to move forward, so we must
>>>> drop them.
>>>>
>>>> Users who wish to continue on either codebase will need to maintain
>>>> their own fork.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes time to start vcloud products again, we'll want to start
>>>> very small, with at least 2 champions, and some means to keep tests
>>>> passing. If we don't, we'll surely repeat history again.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/4p22wkbrd4mncmss
>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-743
>>>> [3] http://markmail.org/message/gxcl37zq2pnn22sf
>>>> [4] http://markmail.org/thread/ligd5sbkmvoo7vdi
>>>> [5] http://markmail.org/thread/s5i6i4nr6f5k5wew
>>>> [6] http://markmail.org/thread/5fav2wa6ylxbqpdy
>>>> [7] http://markmail.org/thread/q4otznoqoygrz64b
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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