Just to follow up - we have now implemented changes to the
TestCompiler and JavaSamplers to reduce the long-term memory storage
needed.

The memory requirement imposed by JMeter itself is now proportional to
the number of active threads; when a thread completes, its memory
should be released.

In conjunction with the Thread Group delayed thread creation option
and a long ramp-up, it's now possible to run a test with hundreds of
thousands of threads (possibly over a million), so long as the number
of concurrent (active) threads is kept to a reasonable number.

On 7 August 2012 08:54, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Kirk,
> Thank you very much for your feedback.
> Waiting for the big test result.
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Monday, August 6, 2012, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
>
>> From kirk (bad subject due to vacation message :) ) :
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Phillippe,
>>
>> The on demand thread group worked brilliantly for my short test. I'll repeat 
>> with an 8 hour
>> run to give it an even better test and let you know how that worked.
>>
>> -- Kirk
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Kirk Pepperdine*
>> Date: Monday, August 6, 2012
>> Subject: JMeter threading model
>> To: Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
>> Cc: JMeter Users List <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Hi Philippe,
>>
>> Just got back from vacation going through email and I noticed that I
>> missed this one. So I've now downloaded the nightly build and loaded a test
>> plan to check it out. Unfortunately the benchmark I decided to setup and
>> run against is borked. Well, I don't know if JMeter is the source of the
>> problem my recent upgrade to Mountain Lion (and what it did to Java). I'll
>> retry on an older machine where the bench should still behave as expected
>> and then see how this new ThreadGroup functions. My guess is that it should
>> be ok as it didn't complain as it would have using a regular ThreadGroup.
>> However, I would like to run a much much longer test to make sure. I'll
>> report back once this is done.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kirk
>>
>> On 2012-07-14, at 3:36 PM, Philippe Mouawad <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Just a little mail to inform you that this feature has been implemented as
>> part of:
>>
>>    - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53418
>>
>> It is currently available in nightly build:
>>
>>    - http://ci.apache.org/projects/jmeter/nightlies/
>>
>>
>> @Kirk, it would be nice from you to look at this feature to see if it
>> answers your initial request and give us some feedback.
>>
>> *Note that this feature may be subject to changes until next release, but
>> getting some feedback would be very useful.
>> *
>>
>> Regards
>> Philippe M.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 9:06 PM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 17 June 2012 13:57, Flavio Cysne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Post entry in my blog:
>> >
>> http://flaviocysne.blogspot.com.br/2012/06/how-to-dynamically-increasedecrease.html
>> >
>> > It's an unfinished work, but it's suffice to make what is proposed.
>> > Comments and constructive criticism are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> The property used to control the thread count can also be set using
>> the BeanShell server, see:
>>
>> http://jmeter.apache.org/usermanual/best-practices.html#beanshell_server
>>
>> Or since properties are global, you could run the property update
>> sampler ("load controller") in a separate parallel thread group with
>> one thread.
>>
>> However, JMeter will still have to start all the threads - even if
>> they are not actively sampling - which will take up memory.
>>
>> It may not be too hard to change JMeter so it delays the thread
>> creation until required.
>> That may help in some use cases.
>>
>> But it would probably be somewhat harder to allow threads to be
>> created later on demand.
>> And converting to an event-based model is definitely a lot of work.
>>
>> > Hope it helps you.
>> > Flávio Cysne
>> >
>> > 2012/6/15 Flavio Cysne <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Errata:
>> >>
>> >> The first "If Controller" is executed and update a property named
>> >> "currentThreads" ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/6/15 Flavio Cysne <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >>> I have tested something in JMeter that could achieve a dynamic
>> threading
>> >>> model and there was no need of new implementations.
>> >>>
>> >>> Basically, I have this structure:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Test Plan: { variables : [ {name: "maxThreads", value: 5}, {name:
>> >>> "currentThreads", value: 1} ] }
>> >>> 2. | - Thread Group: { threads: "${maxThreads}", rampup: 0, infinite:
>> >>> true }
>> >>> 3.     | - If Controller: { condition: "(${__threadNum()} ===
>> >>> ${maxThreads})" }
>> >>> 4.         | - Sampler /* I've used HTTP Request, but anyone would be
>> >>> used */
>> >>> 5.             | - RegEx Extractor: {refName: "th
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordialement.
>> Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

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