I have added a Cache manager to my test which is cleared on each iteration
and checked the option of retrieving all embedded resources from HTML
files. I'm also using concurrent pool with a size of 8.
Doesn't that give higher or closer times to those seen by end user?

Regards
Sam



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Deepak Shetty <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ill also add that the times are usually as seen by the end user - so the
> times as seen by Jmeter usually have to be lesser (since these are max
> times you need to consider empty cache for first time access or slower
> networks etc). You also usually use something like 90 or 95 percentile
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Deepak Shetty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >Does that mean I should not go beyond 50 or should I still do tests with
> > a higher number?
> > You usually have to factor in growth (growing at a rate of X users per
> > month or whatever with whenever is your next scheduled release where you
> > could make reasonable amount of optimisations) - i.e. capacity planning.
> >
> >
> > >How can I go about establishing baselines for page load times, if I do
> > not have any historic data and have no industry benchmarks or >competitor
> > data.
> > There are some usability tests as to what times cause user's to perceive
> > as slow. (Normal navigation has different values then login or search or
> > more secure pages like checkout) - you can google these. These are
> specific
> > to industry and functionality. (for e.g. we have 2 seconds for search
> page
> > (most heavily used part of the website) , 4 seconds for catalog pages,
> > 6seconds for login/secure pages/ pages that have any ERP integration) -
> but
> > its better if you actually conduct some usability tests with end usersor
> if
> > you can find equivalents for your industry.
> >
> >
> > >Would it make sense to say let's see how the website is doing throughout
> > >the development phase and establish our baseline using the current
> > response
> > >times?
> > No! you have to determine the times you want(as above) and see that your
> > current response satisfies those (suppose your current page takes 60
> > seconds are you satisfied that , that is your baseline?)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM, nmq <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> This is not a JMeter specific questions but since this user list
> comprises
> >> of experts in performance testing, I figured it would be a good place to
> >> ask this question.
> >>
> >> My question is how do you establish baselines for a website's
> performance
> >> if you do not have any historic data?  Lets say this is a new website
> and
> >> its for a limited number of customers.
> >>
> >> How do you determine what should be the number of concurrent users you
> >> should simulate.
> >>
> >> Lets say the executives say off at the top of their heads, that the
> >> maximum
> >> number of concurrent users would be 50 at peak times. Does that mean I
> >> should not go beyond 50 or should I still do tests with a higher number?
> >>
> >> How can I go about establishing baselines for page load times, if I do
> not
> >> have any historic data and have no industry benchmarks or competitor
> data.
> >>
> >> Would it make sense to say let's see how the website is doing throughout
> >> the development phase and establish our baseline using the current
> >> response
> >> times?
> >>
> >> I would appreciate any input.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Sam
> >>
> >
> >
>

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