Not too late as far as I'm concerned and I concur totally with Paul
Uszak...thanks to all ! 

On 2017-11-13 06:09, Paul Uszak wrote:

> Well it's not too late to have the conversation :-) or is it :-(
> 
>> The pre-Install.jsp step shouldn't be more difficult than performing a
>> normal deploy of a war file, through usual means.
> 
> That's the problem.  Non of this is defined.  MY usual means is to  use the
> manager application and deploy via the Tomcat GUI.  So you navigate to
> JSPWiki.war and it's uploaded, deployed and started.  There is no concept
> of "having access".  The access control thing is enabling you to use the
> manager in the first place.  Tomcat then deploys it with tomcatX:tomcatX
> permissions.  And tomcatX isn't even a proper user (can't log in).
> 
> I think that the problem is with the default location of the wiki log
> files.  Tomcat doesn't allow them to be created within it's context
> directory without changing it's permissions, or (prior to starting the
> context) changing the location of the wiki's log files.  And what else?
> How is the automatic search index stored and where? So all this is beyond
> the normal deployment method. You have to realise that a web /application
> server looks differently to a developer than it does when it's in
> production mode.  It's fine to run a local off grid web server as root:root
> with 777 permissions everywhere when you're cutting code.  It's harder in
> production. And an application server is always going to be more
> complicated than a pure web server.
> 
> This all makes the deployment not "simple". As soon as you have to invoke
> chown and vim it gets "hard", especially for non developers /non
> administrators.
> 
> On 9 November 2017 at 20:48, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <
> juanpablo.san...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> as I've been mostly missing last month, I'm checking all related JSPWiki
> mail, and I was wondering what kind of problems did you had performing a
> clean deploy of JSPWiki. It's probably too late to help, but at least we
> could document clearlier how to proceed in case of problems for upcoming
> users.
> 
> The pre-Install.jsp step shouldn't be more difficult than performing a
> normal deploy of a war file, through usual means. As long as you have
> enough permissions on your server/machine to do that, everything should go
> fine. And if it doesn't, tomcat's logs (or whatever server you're using)
> should point out what is going wrong. There no need for anything else. This
> obviously changes as soon as you have limited access to your
> server/machine, but also in that case JSPWiki logs should point to whatever
> is happening..
> 
> best regards,
> juan pablo
> 
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Paul Uszak <paul.us...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Further to recent "complexity" discussions, what is the protocol for
> installing JSPWiki via the Tomcat manager gui please?
> 
> I followed the simple installation guide but it fails at step 3.  I
> deployed the jar file with the gui and that was successful.  A JSPWiki (I
> left the default name) directory appeared with all of the relevant files.
> Going to Install.jsp returns a 404 error unfortunately, but the context is up 
> and running.    All of the files are owned by tomcat7 /tomcat7., and
> it's running on a high port.  So I've fallen down at the first hurdle :-(
> I vaguely remember that all of the permissions have to be customised (or
> something).
> 
> It's been a couple of years since I installed it last time, but I remember 
> that it took a while.  The instructions don't seem to mention anything
> about users /groups.  All they say is that "I" need access to the tomcat
> area.  But I don't as that's what deployment does.  What are the other
> steps prior to navigating to "Install.jsp"?
> 
> Thanks all.

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