Hey Dan,
My development environment for WebConsole was same as you described at the 
begining. There is almost no magic in Wicket / html files and you are able to 
walk step by step trought every component initalization process. All I needed 
to go was a Karaf started in debug mode. Sometimes it was painfull but not too 
much.

Kind regards,
Lukasz

Wiadomość napisana przez Dan Tran w dniu 17 sie 2012, o godz. 20:07:

> So far we are ok with remote debugging the service bundles, since we
> are already have lot of unit tests via mocking and other means ( via
> spring ).  Remote debug seldom happen.
> 
> However when come to rapid development, specially webapp, remote
> debug is SOO painful.
> 
> Yes I do see EIK, and looking forward to try it out.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>> 
>> All depends that we mean by integrated. Using remote debug, we can already
>> have a lot of useful information and a better understanding about what Karaf
>> code does. To be honest, I mostly use the remote debug.
>> 
>> FYI we want to make some progress on EIK. With EIK, we are able to run a
>> Karaf "inside" Eclipse: it simplifies a lot the deployment, testing and
>> debugging.
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/17/2012 07:50 PM, Dan Tran wrote:
>>> 
>>> The console is the new wicket base ( to be released as a alpha as
>>> discussed at dev list )
>>> 
>>> Are you able to get IDEA to fully integrate with karaf for development
>>> and debugging? ( id no remote debug involved )
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> -Dan
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>> 
>>>> which console are you talking about ? the one currently in Karaf 2.2.x
>>>> (based on Felix WebConsole), or the new project in preparation (based on
>>>> Pax-Wicket) ?
>>>> 
>>>> On my side, I use IntelliJ IDEA as IDE.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/17/2012 06:30 PM, Dan Tran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am looking for advice on how to setup a development environment
>>>>> starting out with karaf webconsole architecture and extend to add our
>>>>> own features.  We currently has 'semi' successful dev environment for
>>>>> a small set of osgi features running under karaf 2.2.x where we use
>>>>> Eclipse for IDE,  Spring and mocking for unit testing, BUT the
>>>>> production the osgi feature only run under 'blueprint' no Spring.
>>>>> Debugging under runtime is a pain. We can only use remote debug.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now I'd like to bring more ppl to do web development.  This means I
>>>>> must have a much better development where we would like to be able to
>>>>> full integrate karaf with our Eclipse.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>>     - How do Karaf devs develop and test webconsole??, are you able to
>>>>> fully integrate your IDE ( what is it ? ) with karaf?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Dan
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> [email protected]
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com

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