Perhaps I misunderstood the bottom of the Instances page of the User
Guide (http://karaf.apache.org/manual/latest/users-guide/instances.html),
but it listed a set of methods for controlling instances.  The only
method that controls features is createInstance().

Thanks,
Tim


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> what do you mean by "programmatically" start a feature ?
>
> You can clone an instance, and change etc/org.apache.karaf.feature.cfg to
> add your feature as boot feature only for the instance.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 04/17/2014 08:46 PM, Tim Moloney wrote:
>>
>> The files created using instance:create are hard-coded as resources in
>> org.apache.karaf.instance.core-3.0.1.jar and there doesn't appear to
>> be any way to override this.
>>
>> So it appears that I can either use instance:create and I'm stuck with
>> the default configuration files, or I can use instance:clone but can't
>> programatically start a feature.
>>
>> I hope that I'm wrong.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think it's best to take a look at the sources :)
>>> You'll find the create at [1] and the clone at [2].
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>> [1] -
>>>
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=karaf.git;a=blob;f=instance/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/instance/core/internal/InstanceServiceImpl.java;h=535c2a00b1c533537676b95065ebf0a86fbba20c;hb=HEAD#l247
>>> [2] -
>>>
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=karaf.git;a=blob;f=instance/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/instance/core/internal/InstanceServiceImpl.java;h=535c2a00b1c533537676b95065ebf0a86fbba20c;hb=HEAD#l582
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-17 20:20 GMT+02:00 Tim Moloney <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> So all 37 files in the etc directory and the 6 files in the bin
>>>> directory are hard-coded into Karaf somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> I can create a new instance using instance:clone, but then there
>>>> doesn't appear to be a way to start a feature programatically.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>>
>>>>> it's creating a clean installation of a Karaf setup, without any
>>>>> previous
>>>>> knowledge, if you need a new instance that is almost the same as the
>>>>> one
>>>>> you
>>>>> already have, use clone, it copies also all configurations.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-04-17 18:37 GMT+02:00 Tim Moloney <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is create actually doing? Can I control the configuration
>>>>>> files that it creates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it's the other way round. If you use clone the root instance is
>>>>>>> cloned.
>>>>>>> If you use create it is literally like unzipping but its not actually
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sent from mobile device
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 17.04.2014 17:48 schrieb "Tim Moloney" <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said that using instance:clone is "like" unzipping the Karaf zip
>>>>>>>> artifact.  Does is actually unzip the Karaf zip artifact? If I'm
>>>>>>>> running Karaf on a machine without an Internet connection, will I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to have the Karaf zip artifact in one of my repositories? Can I
>>>>>>>> override which artifact it unzips?  Is there a way to specify a
>>>>>>>> feature to start when using instance:clone?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I use instance:create, where does Karaf get the files for the etc
>>>>>>>> directory, since it is not simply copying them from the root
>>>>>>>> instance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Tim Moloney
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you clone the root instance your modifications are transferred
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> cloned instances too. If you create a new instance it's like
>>>>>>>>>> unzipping
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> karaf zip artifact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sent from mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 17.04.2014 16:55 schrieb "Tim Moloney"
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just started experimenting with instances in Karaf. I've
>>>>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>>>>> that the child instances aren't getting the changes I've made to
>>>>>>>>>>> etc/org.apache.karaf.features.cfg. I did the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - modified the featuresRepositories property in
>>>>>>>>>>> etc/org.apache.karaf.features.cfg (added a custom features
>>>>>>>>>>> repository)
>>>>>>>>>>> - started Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>> - created an instance (instance:create foo)
>>>>>>>>>>> - compared the configuration files (diff -u
>>>>>>>>>>> {etc,instances/foo}/org.apache.karaf.features.cfg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The child instance does not have my custom features repository.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> the child instances aren't getting org.apache.karaf.features.cfg
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> the root etc directory, where are they getting them from?  Can I
>>>>>>>>>>> modify this location?  I know that I can use the --furl option,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> all of the my child instances will need my custom features
>>>>>>>>>>> repository
>>>>>>>>>>> and it would be simpler to configure that in one spot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, both Karaf 3.0.0 and 3.0.1 act this way.  I haven't tried
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> other versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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