On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> hmm, must have overseen that sentence:
>>
>>>  The onl difference in
>>> bundle inventory from blueprint to DS is the addition of the
>>> compendium jar, which is not even loaded by loading up CXF.
>>
>>
>> actually it's no good idea to include that, and afaik all of the felix
>> bundles already provide all of the needed
>> compendium packages.
>> So remove that one, cause that will make trouble and that's for sure :-)
>
> So, 'scope provided'? I'll try that before I go out for the walk.


Well, there you go. All is well, no capability wiring errors, no
mysterious explosions.

>
>
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-07 15:20 GMT+02:00 Benson Margulies <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Achim and David,
>>>
>>> I am not currently using the most recent felix resolver; that requires
>>> building the trunk of Karaf with a patch.
>>>
>>> Over on the Karaf list, I'm pestering Achim with the following situation:
>>>
>>> I have, now, a working version of my system which is 100% blueprint.
>>> (I did solve the problem which started all of this.) Nevertheless, you
>>> and others make a convincing case for DS, so I decided to try to move
>>> to DS.
>>>
>>> To start, I picked a bundle that has no use of CXF -- it just consumes
>>> a service and registers a service. The service it consumes has no
>>> Provide-Capability in its metadata.
>>>
>>>  I:
>>>
>>> * removed the blueprint metadata,
>>> * added a dependency on the compendium jar (5.0.0)
>>> * added the DS annotations
>>> * added -dsannotations: * for bnd.
>>>
>>> In Karaf, I install the prerequisites, which have not changed. Then I
>>> install the DS service. I feared that I'd get a wiring error due to
>>> the Require-Capability. But I don't. Instead, Karaf (very noisily)
>>> restarts the CXF bundles that are already there. The onl difference in
>>> bundle inventory from blueprint to DS is the addition of the
>>> compendium jar, which is not even loaded by loading up CXF.
>>>
>>> If I then install an (unchanged) bundle that uses blueprint and
>>> consumes the DS service, I get an NPE in the Karaf resolver.
>>>
>>> I think I'm going to go take a walk and then try to produce an open
>>> source test case for this hysteria.
>>>
>>> --benson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The felix-resolver does actually look for those Require-Capabilities and
>>> > throws an error if they can't be met.
>>> > Now karaf uses this resolver to resolve all features, and therefore will
>>> > run
>>> > into the same issue when installing a feature as installing a bundle.
>>> >
>>> > regards, Achim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2015-09-07 15:04 GMT+02:00 David Jencks <[email protected]>:
>>> >>
>>> >> I think you mean @Reference?
>>> >>
>>> >> I was a bit worried about including those Require-Capability for
>>> >> services,
>>> >> but the people on the spec committee  who understand resolving more
>>> >> than me
>>> >> said that it would not be used at runtime but only to sort of plan what
>>> >> set
>>> >> of bundles would be a good idea to run together.  I wouldn’t rule out
>>> >> this
>>> >> causing the NPE however.  Do you/Karaf have the latest felix resolver
>>> >> installed?
>>> >>
>>> >> BTW Felix DS includes a gogo and a normal shell command.   I wouldn’t
>>> >> think this would cause a restart — it seems to me that this would
>>> >> indicate a
>>> >> non-osgi-friendly console — but I don’t know how the karaf console is
>>> >> set
>>> >> up.
>>> >>
>>> >> hope you continue making progress :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> david jencks
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David, I note that the use of an @Requirement leads to a
>>> >> > Require-Capability in the manifest. In one case, I need to consume a
>>> >> > service which is registered by a boring old Activator class in a
>>> >> > bundle I do not control, and which does not have the corresponding
>>> >> > Provide-Capability. I haven't seen a wiring error yet, but this may
>>> >> > be
>>> >> > related to an NPE in the Karaf resolver that afflicts me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Benson Margulies
>>> >> > <[email protected]>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> So, the good news is that I read the spec, I followed you hints, and
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> converted a simple bundle of mine from blueprint to DS.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The bad news is that Karaf 4.0.1 was unable to start up with a
>>> >> >> combination of aries-blueprint and scr enabled. I am going to see if
>>> >> >> the Karaf folks can give me a path through that before I try
>>> >> >> converting _all_ my services all at once.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Apache Member
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>>> > &
>>> > Project Lead
>>> > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>> > Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>> >
>>> > Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Apache Member
>> Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC
>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer &
>> Project Lead
>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>> Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook <http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS>
>>
>> Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
>>

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