Are you saying that a custom karaf distribution will (hopefully) exhibit
different behaviour from the standard distribution with the fragment
manually added to etc/startup.properties? If so I'll give that a go and I
guess log bug with the results from these 3 ways of adding the fragment.

Thanks,

Paul


On 18 July 2016 at 08:08, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't understand where the bug is.
> If you install a fragment, either you add it to a feature somehow, or you
> add it to the etc/startup.properties.
> In the first case, the pax-logging bundle has to be refreshed. Else, the
> fragment won't be wired to the bundle.
> This may lead to the console being restarted, and that's not necessarily a
> problem.
> Note that the above should only happen at the first boot.
> A work around would be to generate a custom karaf distribution and make
> sure that fragment bundle is part of the startup phase, in which case it
> will be added to the etc/startup.properties and be correctly installed in
> the very first startup and the need to refresh the pax-logging service
> bundle should go away.
>
> Guillaume
>
> 2016-07-01 13:42 GMT+02:00 pkmcculloch <[email protected]>:
>
>> I'm encountering what I think is exactly the same issue in a vanilla
>> 4.0.5.
>> Once my logging fragment is installed any subsequent feature installation
>> results in a partial framework restart, and a re-display of the console
>> banner.
>>
>> If I do a verbose installation of (in this case webconsole) then I see
>>
>> ...
>> No deployment change.
>> Stopping bundles:
>>   org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-service/1.8.5
>> Refreshing bundles:
>>     org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-service/1.8.5 (Attached fragments
>> changed: [])
>> Starting bundles:
>>   org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-service/1.8.5
>> ...
>>
>> I did some debugging and found that in
>>
>> org.apache.karaf.features.internal.service.Deployer.computeBundlesToRefresh()
>> the 'newFragments' that are calculated for the pax logging bundle don't
>> include the fragment. The 'oldFragments' variable does include the bundle,
>> so a change is flagged & the pax logging bundle is restarted.
>>
>> The content of the fragment (beyond the manifest) is irrelevant - a
>> fragment
>> containing no classes also causes this behaviour.
>>
>> I also found that the same behaviour is exhibited if the fragment is
>> installed as any other bundle, rather than via startup.properties. The
>> fragment also works in this scenario, so I wonder if the advice in the
>> manual to install via startup is out of date?
>>
>> Thanks for any advice on this.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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