scott/brad do you guys have a repo setup for this project? On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Brad Red Hat <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'll certainly look at that a bit more. My concerns about Kura project have > as much to do with the project's level of abstraction and I can bring it up > there. I did ask about their intentions with service interfaces. As I've > dug into it deeper and thought about "the vision thing", to quote a US > president, I laid out some of those thoughts. > > https://enjekt.org/2017/01/04/iot-and-the-abstraction-of-things/ > > Because it is an Eclipse project I wasn't sure that they'd be interested in > Karaf/Felix but can check. I've heard that they have, in fact, opened a > Jira > ticket about it. So they may be interested. > > It isn't just about a Karaf implementation although it is certainly about > that as well. I'm also concerned about the intermediary libraries/services > that abstract developers away from low level details of pin outs in order > to > make application code portable. > > Obviously the intermediate level concerns really don't belong with Kura or > Karaf so I won't discuss those here. Suffice it to say I'd like to see > that > intermediate set of libraries become a "sticky" place where developers and > sensor/actuator manufacturers go to add new high level device specific > bundles for use in applications. > > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Lewis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Karaf IoT > > On 1/2/2017 11:35 AM, Brad Red Hat wrote: > > I certainly understand the "short of time" problem. It just happens > > that I have a bit of a window right now and would like to get into it a > bit deeper. > > > > > > Whether a Karaf/PAX/Felix implementation is more appropriate under the > > aegis of Kura or as a separate project that leverages the Kura driver > > bundles is hard to say. I guess that would depend on a couple of things. > > > > 1. How amenable they are to a more top down approach that starts with > > OSGi service mechanics and drives down to meet the driver bundles? > > 2. Does an Eclipse foundation project have any interest in an Karaf > > branch project? > > The ECF project would be interested in such an effort [1]. We have > been/are > distributing our impl of the OSGi Remote Services/RSA specs [2] as Karaf > features [3] and have recently been exploring using remote services for > Karaf management [4]. > > Also, in my interaction with some of the Kura committers it's become clear > that they are doing some prototyping of running Kura services on > Karaf [5]. I don't know whether they have release plans around that > work, but I know that it has been going on. It might be useful to > convey to them directly what your desires/criticisms are, and perhaps > contribute to that work. > > Scott > > [1] http://www.eclipse.org/ecf > [2] > https://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Communication_ > Framework_Project#OSGi_Remote > _Services > [3] https://wiki.eclipse.org/EIG:Install_into_Apache_Karaf > [4] https://wiki.eclipse.org/Karaf_Remote_Management_with_Eclipse > [5] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/kura-dev/ > > >
