After 3 People telling me on the list and 4 in the #Karaf Channel I finally got 
it.. thanks for your patience Francois : )

Julian

Am 02.10.19, 16:07 schrieb "Francois Papon" <[email protected]>:

    Yes that's it ;)
    
    But Cave it's not only an OBR but mainly a maven repository.
    
    regards,
    
    François
    [email protected]
    
    Le 02/10/2019 à 15:20, Julian Feinauer a écrit :
    > Hi Francois,
    >
    > so the deployer fetches the bundles / features from the Cave OBR and does 
the deployment?
    > So the whole "installation" process is in theory just one REST call?
    >
    > Julian
    >
    > Am 02.10.19, 15:07 schrieb "Francois Papon" 
<[email protected]>:
    >
    >     Hi Julian,
    >     
    >     You can install the Cave-deployer on the Karaf instances and use the 
api
    >     rest of the deployer to install features/bundles.
    >     
    >     regards,
    >     
    >     François
    >     [email protected]
    >     
    >     Le 02/10/2019 à 13:43, Julian Feinauer a écrit :
    >     > Hi Lukasz,
    >     >
    >     > thanks fort he response.
    >     > In fact, I know both of those but Atlassians backend is not open 
source and Eclipses Backend is based on p2, as far as I understand which is 
some different kind of OBR or?
    >     > But generally, the Eclipse store covers pretty much our use case 
(it could / should even be simpler, of course).
    >     >
    >     > But to bring that to karaf I could use Cave to host the bundles and 
then "only" send a Command to the karaf ssh shell, or, I mean, theoretically 
speaking?
    >     >
    >     > Julian
    >     >
    >     > Am 02.10.19, 13:40 schrieb "Łukasz Dywicki" <[email protected]>:
    >     >
    >     >     I am aware of one marketplace which is completely based on open 
source
    >     >     stack - and it is used in .. no surprise .. openHAB. :-)
    >     >     
    >     >     There is Eclipse Marketplace which offers some kid of listing of
    >     >     resources which can be downloaded and installed in end-user 
environment.
    >     >     The marketplace is a webservice, openhab have special client 
which
    >     >     downloads bundles or KARs and tells karaf to install them.
    >     >     
    >     >     Having said there is still a lot of things which are left 
unresolved -
    >     >     such as payments and/or licensing.
    >     >     
    >     >     Another marketplace which you might not be fully aware of is 
Atlassian -
    >     >     their plugins are running with OSGi under the hood.
    >     >     
    >     >     Cheers,
    >     >     Łukasz
    >     >     
    >     >     
    >     >     On 29.09.2019 16:14, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
    >     >     > Hi,
    >     >     > 
    >     >     > For OpenSource/Karaf perspective, that's a bit the idea of 
features in
    >     >     > combination with Cave (as server provider). I think it's 
already good to
    >     >     > go when used the correct way.
    >     >     > 
    >     >     > Regarding more "commercial/pro" AppStore like, it's not in 
Karaf scope
    >     >     > directly IMHO. I know some providers about kind of "Karaf 
Apps"
    >     >     > (basically a features plus some metadata).
    >     >     > 
    >     >     > Regards
    >     >     > JB
    >     >     > 
    >     >     > On 27/09/2019 15:35, Julian Feinauer wrote:
    >     >     >> Hi all,
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> after several discussions in the #karaf Channel in Slack I 
wanted to
    >     >     >> bring this issue also to the list.
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> We are currently building a Framework which is like an 
“App-Store” where
    >     >     >> we provide a “Runtime” and a set of SPIs to code “Apps” 
against. This Is
    >     >     >> all web-based so the Apps are in fact a set of Websites 
(boring,
    >     >     >> oldshool, give us apps!).
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> But we also like to introduce later on an “App Store” and 
the ability to
    >     >     >> (dynamically) load / start new Apps or stop / uninstall them.
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> So, theoretically speaking, Karaf is a good fit as it 
already brings a
    >     >     >> lot of necessary functionality.
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> My question is a bit similar to Jaaps in [1]: Are there any 
(known) and
    >     >     >> ideally Open Source solutions of what we are trying to solve?
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> We would also need things like Signed bundles (see [2]), a 
separate
    >     >     >> process for Managing (or remote controlling) Karaf and so on.
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> And it would be nice to look at another project and see what 
one can use
    >     >     >> from there and what not.
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> Or do you have any general questions, ideas, hints for us on 
if this
    >     >     >> would work or if we should better forget about that?
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> Thanks already!
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> Julian
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >>  
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> [1]
    >     >     >> 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72b266c2a49bce7288c2972a03ee36562b058088898eb40d8f992590@%3Cuser.karaf.apache.org%3E
    >     >     >>
    >     >     >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-6436
    >     >     >>
    >     >     > 
    >     >     
    >     >
    >     
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