Ah ! got it.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:46 AM, larry mccay <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually, what I am proposing is that we *branch* on Monday and double
> commit as necessary in order to close down before the rc and through the
> release process. I'd like to get to a rc by the end of next week - 6/2 - if
> not sooner.
>
> We will also likely need to double commit bug fixes to master and 0.13.0
> branch for some time in case we need a new 0.13.x release to avoid the
> 1.0.0 refactoring for existing deployments.
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Sandeep More <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Larry,
>>
>> Thanks for starting the discussion, given that we are away from the
>> target date just by a week I too think that releasing 0.13.0 on Monday and
>> then working towards 1.0.0 (package refactoring) would be a good idea. One
>> upshot of this is that we don't have to double commit as we had initially
>> thought :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Sandeep
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:44 PM, larry mccay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> All -
>>>
>>> As we targeted a 5/31 date for the release of 0.13.0, I think we need to
>>> look at managing the current scope for 0.13.0 as well as the plan for a
>>> 1.0.0 again.
>>> Since we are just a week away from the target date, I think that
>>> refactoring the package names for the 1.0.0 release at the same time is a
>>> stretch.
>>>
>>> We currently have 22 or so JIRAs and will not be able to get them all
>>> into 0.13.0.
>>> What do you think about the following:
>>>
>>> * We manage the existing scope over the rest of this week.
>>> * I will post comments on some JIRAs about potentially moving them out
>>> and without any movement will move them out by Friday 26th.
>>> * JIRAs that I think are outside the KIPs that are driving the release
>>> or that may destabilize the release I will just move.
>>>
>>> If I move something that is something wanted by you, please feel free to
>>> add it back, comment or raise discussion on this thread.
>>>
>>> I also propose that we branch for 0.13.0 on Monday 5/29th and work
>>> toward getting the rest of the required issues in and an RC by the 31st or
>>> by end of the week. Once we release 0.13.0, we should refactor master for
>>> the 1.0.0 release - concentrate on closing down any fallout from package
>>> name changes and do an immediate 1.0.0 release.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> --larry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Sandeep More <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds great !
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:32 PM, larry mccay <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > That sounds reasonable to me.
>>>> > I was hoping to get as many of the patches available and important
>>>> bugs
>>>> > fixed before the split as well.
>>>> > Minimizing the double commits/patches is definitely in our interest.
>>>> >
>>>> > At the same time, we need to have enough time to spend on refactoring
>>>> as
>>>> > well.
>>>> > I'm thinking that May 15th may be a good branch point - giving us 2
>>>> weeks
>>>> > to concentrate on repackaging and adapter classes.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Sandeep More <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Oh, I guess it depends on when we split, I was planning on taking
>>>> up the
>>>> > > new feature (mentioned in earlier email).
>>>> > > If we decide to go for the feature I was hoping to get it in sooner
>>>> > (before
>>>> > > the split) if possible.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:53 AM, larry mccay <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Actually, I meant 5/31 for a release date.
>>>> > > > You think that is too early for a repackaged and narrowly scoped
>>>> 1.0.0?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Sandeep More <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Great, thanks Larry for starting the discussion and the KIP !
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > May 31st target date sounds good, just to be sure, this date is
>>>> when
>>>> > we
>>>> > > > > split 0.13 right ?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > KIP-5 looks good, I will try to see whether I can find any
>>>> extended
>>>> > > > classes
>>>> > > > > that might need adapter classes.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Best,
>>>> > > > > Sandeep
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:35 AM, larry mccay <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Forgot to add the [1] to the initial mail.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Enjoy...
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > 1.
>>>> > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/knox-dev/201704.
>>>> > > > > > mbox/%3CCACRbFygW6y7adt_PNJrQ8n3fCswi6F_kDO5T-
>>>> > > > > rFEHJG6G5sB4Q%40mail.gmail.
>>>> > > > > > com%3E
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:45 PM, larry mccay <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > All -
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > After many recent distractions, I would like to start the
>>>> scoping
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > > > > planning for what will likely be our 1.0.0 release.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > As discussed in [1], we will begin to repackaging/refactor
>>>> master
>>>> > > > after
>>>> > > > > > > branching for an 0.13.0 release and only release 0.13.0 if
>>>> the
>>>> > work
>>>> > > > on
>>>> > > > > > > repackaging master doesn't seem like it will make whatever
>>>> date
>>>> > we
>>>> > > > > chose
>>>> > > > > > > for the release.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > That said, I would like to limit scope to only those new
>>>> features
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > > bug
>>>> > > > > > > fixes that are absolutely necessary or low risk for breaking
>>>> > > backward
>>>> > > > > > > compatibility.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > I propose that the following is needed:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > * A KIP (KIP-5) be created for the repackaging/refactoring
>>>> work
>>>> > > > > required
>>>> > > > > > > for the 1.0.0 release
>>>> > > > > > > * Determine the existing JIRAs and patches that must/can be
>>>> in
>>>> > the
>>>> > > > > > release
>>>> > > > > > > but try and defer as many as possible
>>>> > > > > > > * Determine required improvements - I have a few security
>>>> related
>>>> > > > > > > improvements in mind
>>>> > > > > > > * Write up KIPs for features that involve architectural
>>>> and/or
>>>> > > > > strategic
>>>> > > > > > > feature details
>>>> > > > > > > * Determine when to branch for 0.13.0 and take on double
>>>> commits
>>>> > > for
>>>> > > > > > 1.0.0
>>>> > > > > > > parity
>>>> > > > > > > * Agree on a target release date
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > My initial thought is to target May 31st as the release
>>>> date.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > Thoughts?
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > --larry
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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