felix, doug, many thanks for your replies.
Doug Chestnut wrote:
> Hi Joern,
> Did you try the "New publication" usecase? When I make a new
> publication [using the default pub as a template], the
> indexing/searching works without having to make any manual config edits.
yes, originally i did. i must have messed something up while trying to
customize my publication. yesterday night, i started over from scratch,
and when i tried again, i could not reproduce the problem. sorry for the
noise.
*.*
but my mess-up is symptomatic of a real problem: it's very hard to play
with 1.4 using 1.2 documentation and guessing. things break a lot. i
know that i'm on my own fiddling with dev trees and i get what i pay
for, but 1.4 is in need of better docs...
q to the developers: are the fallback and templating mechanisms going to
change for 1.4-release? if not, can we start documenting them? i'll be
glad to help, although my lenya skills are still very limited.
same goes for the /modules directory hierarchy: if it is finished, my
gues is that most of the 1.2 docs could be applied to 1.4 with just a
little more than search & replace.
since many modifications cannot yet be done via the cms interface (and i
doubt it would make sense in many cases), users have to grope through
the filesystem a lot, and it's quite hard to get a good mental
representation of how the web gui and the actual files on disk interact.
<dream>
i would love to see a commented walk-through of the entire lenya 1.4
source tree (including build/) (well, ok, the *major* directories),
where i can find out which parts do what, i.e.
* which parts are used only during compilation and re-deployment,
* which parts are used at run-time,
* which parts are publication-specific,
* which parts are fallback-enabled and what the order of the fallback
stages is, and more generally: exactly which files are processed when a
page is served/edited etc. i have learned the basics of pipelines, so i
know where the content comes from, but which xsls are actually used in a
specific case is still a mystery to me.
* which files are copied when i create a new publication from an
existing one, and which files are only referred to and thus remain
"live" and will propagate changes in the base publication,
* which parts are written to during editing, and which parts are written
to during live operation (to be able to make decent security decisions
when it comes to file permissions etc.),
all in all, i want to know where to make graceful modifications and
customizations.
</dream>
right now, i'm using a hack-and-slash approach in very low-level xsls,
xconfs and xmaps, re-deploying publications madly, just because i don't
understand the code paths and fall-throughs properly.
solprovider's docs take a great approach imho in that he does not fear
to present really ugly hacks, but when he does, he says so and suggests
more general and more elegant solutions as well. this is really helpful,
because i learn why some things are bad style (even though they are
probably easier to understand and hack up and yield immediate results),
but i get the bigger picture as well.
excuse my ranting, this is all just so fscking hard on my brain... let
me reiterate that i think lenya and cocoon are amazing pieces of work -
thanks to all contributors!
best,
jörn
--
"Án nýrra verka, án nútimans, hættir fortíðin að vekja áhuga."
"Without new works, without the present the past will cease to be of
interest."
- Ásmundur Sveinsson (1893-1982)
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Institut für Politikwissenschaft
Universität Duisburg-Essen, Standort Duisburg
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