Andreas Hartmann wrote:

Michael Wechner schrieb:

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Thomas and I are currently integrating the editor in Lenya 2.0.2-dev,


have you started with this already?


Yes, but the code is still in an early stage of development.


IIUC your developements have not been committed to the ASF SVN repo, but kept privately by you, right?


Is the protocol pure Atom or does it have custom extensions?


It has editor-specific extensions.


are these public?


For the sake of Open Source I would suggest that you publish the protocol if it has custom extensions and discuss this with the community first.


The ownership of the code belongs to the Uniklinikum Freiburg. IIUC they will probably donate the server-side code to the Lenya project, which IMO is a very kind move.


it's always nice if somebody wants to contribute code, but IIUC it's not clear yet, right?


Don't get me wrong, I think it's great if new alternatives are being integrated, but DO it transparently (which I don't see at the moment) and otherwise do it as a private custom module.


We're not trying to establish a standard protocol, but integrate a particular editor. The decision to keep it similar to Atom has practical reasons.

This is not a community project, but a client project. Discussing the details in public wouldn't allow us to meet our deadlines


I think that's a very bad excuse. Discussing/listening is NOT the same as deciding! So, you can only profit from the community and don't have to worry.

(which in this case are not set by the client but by other circumstances) and to keep our efforts within a reasonable budget.

Apart from that: Am I understanding correctly that you're suggesting that the code shouldn't even be offered for donation if it hasn't been designed as a community effort?


No, this is not what I said or even suggested.

From your statement "Thomas and I are currently integrating the editor in Lenya 2.0.2-dev" I was assuming that you will commit your code into the ASF SVN repo without discussing or publishing transparently the interfaces. IIUC now you don't commit, so fine with me and enough said.

Do the other developers agree to this?

If you're concerned that the code won't be maintained if it is not a community effort: I think that this probability is virtually neglegible since the editor will be used with Lenya 2.0 by the Uniklinikum and (if the code will be donated) by the BeCompany. Apart from my personal commitment to the Lenya project,


it happened many times that active developers/companies stopped contributing, which isn't bad, but it's a fact.

The only way to guarantee support is to make stuff transparent such that others are able to continue.

Cheers

Michael

commercial support for both the editor and the CMS code will be available.

-- Andreas




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