Thorsten Scherler <[email protected]> schrieb am 16.01.2009 13:53:06:
> El vie, 16-01-2009 a las 10:40 +0100, > [email protected] escribió: > ... > > > > > > The lenya community is not as big as we could afford to split this > > > community apart. This may not be your intention but experience shows > > > that exactly this will happen. > > > > Here I'm not shure. Let me explain it form my point of view. > > I have written some useful litte modules and would like to share them with > > other people, but I'm not able to understand the whole lenya system in > > deep. So if I would be lenya committer there is a risk for me to damage > > core code. > > Since you said they are modules, they should not harm the core, right? Yes. > Further there is always a risk to damage something but that is what a > good community is for. You can be sure that the error will be found and > fixed very fast. > > We can create a new svn branch (something like "contributions") and > people can submit patches against it. I think that would be good thing. > > > > > > > The lenya community should be developed here in the mailing list and the > > > infrastructure that the ASF provides for this project. This is a > > > reliable environment for the development process. > > > > If it would be possible to get a "lenya module committer" with limited > > write access to the repository, the enty barrier for lenya development > > would be lower and there is no risk to damage core code by committers new > > at their job. > > Hmm, we already have a distinction between PMC member and committer > (that I personally not favor, but it was decide in majority) out of a > similar reason but IMO it did not helped to get faster people on board. > > The real problem is that we have promising candidates for new committers > but we are failing to give the last helping hand. > > > Just have a look at the drupal Community. They have a little core > > development team and a big community developing modules > > http://www.ohloh.net/p?q=drupal They are very sucessful. > > I think the new modules concept of lenya 2.0 ist excellent, and it's a > > great chance to get a big community. > > I agree that it would be wonderful to have more modules that are driven > by "outsiders" however one big problem is that this modules need to be > maintained. I can remember when I worked with different php cms that > most modules are snapshots and not maintained anymore. Not trying to say > that drupal is like this. Drupal is for me just an example, were the high qualified core contributers are seperated from the module developers. I think that's an import point for the success of a community project. A module provider has his own little project where he can realize his ideas and provide it to the community. A good motivation with a gerat benefit for the community I think. For good quality, the modules schould be reviewed by the core team. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I have a dedicated server and I "can" (not sure) and I like (sure) > > > > create such a sharing space. I have an idea to the "structure" of this > > > > site, but, before talk a lot, I would like to know : > > > > > > > > - How do you think about this idea ? > > > > > > I like your good intentions but there are several problems with the > > > suggestion as mentioned above. > > > > > > > - Do you think you will use such a web site ? or not ? (this question > > is > > > > important, because I don't want to create a think that will not be > > used). > > > > > > I will keep doing my bits and pieces HERE whenever I can but doubt that > > > I find time for anything else. > > > > > > > - This is opposite to the Apache process ? > > > > > > Yes as pointed out above. > > > > > > > So I am very interested having a plattform sharing modules an would use it. > > If we open a contributor module in svn would you provide patches to fill > it? Yes I like this idea. Is there a way to get write access to this area after good contributions ? (Only to the "own" module area not to the whole repository.) That would be a role like "lenya module committer". I think that could be a useful step before becomming a real lenya committer. > > The one thing that we definitely cannot do is give the whole world > commit access. This still one need to earn via contributions. Yes I agree. SVN access to everbody in the world might be dangerous. regards Rudolf > > salu2 > -- > Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org> > Open Source Java <consulting, training and solutions> > > Sociedad Andaluza para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad > de la Información, S.A.U. (SADESI) > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
