Am 04.08.2011 17:40, schrieb Marko Rodriguez:
> Yo,
>
>> I'm simply confronted with the question 'why do you use such a graph
>> model and not another one based on graph classes'?
>> Hence, I'm gathering pros and cons for the 'property graph' model.
>> Why is an interface like the one of Neo4j provided this way and not in
>> another (e.g. using graph classes). Is there any design or architectural
>> decision we don't know, yet?
>> The longer I think the more I come to the conclusion that important
>> points are: object-oriented representation of a network, and related
>> with that, an 'external' representation of the graph structure that is
>> not bound to a graph class managing the access to the graph structure
>> and the data stored in properties.
>> All other points like performance, or representation of the graph
>> structure, seem to be equivalent to text-book graphs (directed,
>> undirected, etc.), like you already stated out.
> Ah. I remember now -- you are interested in vertex typing (classes). I read 
> your paper on the topic.
>
> Here are my thoughts on the matter. In the world of RDF (which is has nice 
> clear separations), there is the data model (multi-relational graph), the 
> schema language (RDF schema), and the ontology language (OWL). Mixing these 
> layers into a single framework is deadly because you pigeonhole the 
> interpretation of the graph. For example, if you are into classes and type 
> hierarchies (and OO-based instantiations), then you are pigeonholing yourself 
> into close-world semantics and a taxonomical mind-set. Thats great for you if 
> you like that sort of thing---but what about others who wish, lets say to 
> explore evidential logics in which such strongly typed models are not 
> desired. This is also one of my problems with the RDF stack---while keeping 
> the layers separate, RDF/RDFS/OWL is seen as the only layer. And frankly, 
> description logics are not the only useful logics ( 
> http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.3378 ). Now map that to what you are saying about 
> property graphs and vertex typing.
>
> A property graph is a multi-relational graph data model. You can build logic 
> layers atop to implement your worldview as you see fit. It is the job of the 
> database to persist the structure and make it fast to traverse/query. It is 
> the job of the layers above to model and create meaning.
Thanks for the information. I conclude: the property graph model is like
it is due to the wish of flexibility and separation of concerns.
>> Perhaps it is also a problem that the term 'property graph' isn't
>> formally declared in some kind of scientific work and therefore widely
>> unknown, isn't it?
> Science is an industry claiming to be the ruler by which ideas are measured. 
> Ideas do not need science. However, science needs ideas. Do not be sucked 
> into the trap -- you will end up wearing a dusty suit, unhealthy, in some 
> stodgy dinning hall at some conference talking to others who think 
> publications make truth. And worst of all, you will be wearing a name tag.
You're right! ;-)
> Outz,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com
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