Yes, that makes sense. Thanks, Renat
-----Original Message----- From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:20 PM To: user@livy.apache.org Cc: d...@livy.apache.org; d...@livy.incubator.apache.org; u...@livy.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Graduate or retire Hi, I think it's more valuable to have messages on the mailing list more than a meeting. The reason is that it's easier to archive and count the activity on the mailing list. So, these numbers could be interesting as argument for graduation. Regards JB > Le 4 juin 2021 à 07:01, Renat Bekbolatov <rebek...@microsoft.com> a écrit : > > Thanks for bringing this up Bikas! > > I agree with JB - in my opinion, this project must graduate, one way or > another. > > Maybe we could organize a meeting with any contributors that we can reach and > discuss how we can make this happen? > > Thanks, > Renat > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 9:26 AM > To: d...@livy.apache.org <mailto:d...@livy.apache.org> > Cc: d...@livy.incubator.apache.org <mailto:d...@livy.incubator.apache.org>; > u...@livy.incubator.apache.org <mailto:u...@livy.incubator.apache.org> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Graduate or retire > > Hi Bikas, > > Thanks for bringing this here. > > I would push for graduation, but only if we see community activity starting > from now. > > Regards > JB > >> Le 3 juin 2021 à 18:22, Bikas Saha <bi...@apache.org> a écrit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> Apache Livy is a successful project that has met many of its initial design >> goals to provide interactive access to spark jobs. It appears to be widely >> used by many organizations and users. However, project development has been >> inactive due to lack of demand for new features and relative stability of >> the code base. >> >> At this point there are 2 options for the project given its incubating status >> >> 1. Graduate - The project has been following the Apache way in its release >> process and community. It can graduate as long as there are 3 pmc willing to >> continue to manage the project. Also, volunteers are needed to complete the >> graduation checklist and help move the project through the graduation >> process. >> * >> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327660521%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=I3MqK4%2Bq1QUniN5dH0GGQY%2FR1wY5uovqcg%2BsHk6MZoY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fgraduation.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=t59rnMMVtJpk8hYBec720Jw%2FakFFAQ7BAKV%2BMt5rfCI%3D&reserved=0> >> 2. Retire - The project will be retired and no longer be supported by the >> ASF development process. Its website will be deleted and generally new >> releases would not be available. The biggest drawback of this for the user >> community is that security patches like the recent CVE release in Feb 21 >> will not be made available. That can be a blocker for many organizations. >> * >> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2BDcnNzp%2Bn41DJPWpSczDRXMN4JT3VlurX4Y%2BnI%2BYX5E%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.apache.org%2Fguides%2Fretirement.html&data=04%7C01%7Crebekbol%40microsoft.com%7C9db276b1f636474a076508d9271878ba%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637583808327670480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2BDcnNzp%2Bn41DJPWpSczDRXMN4JT3VlurX4Y%2BnI%2BYX5E%3D&reserved=0> >> >> What does the community think about this situation and how to proceed? >> Should we graduate or retire? >> >> When supporting graduation, please indicate willingness to drive the >> graduation process and subsequently participate in the project pmc. >> >> Bikas
