On 10-Jan-08, at 10:48 AM, Doug Bateman wrote:
Ken,
It is an open source project. This means that those wishing to see
change have the responsability of donating the time or resources
needed to be the source of change. The two ways to do this is to
either (a) become a contributor by contributing things the community
finds valuable or (b) offering a job to a committer that they find
attractive and gives them the freedom to work on the project full
time.
The criticism may of course be fair.
They are fair. But to Eugene's credit he's trying to integrate a
flurry of changes that John or myself have pushed into the embedder.
We are obviously not trying to hose anyone but it's only recently that
Eugene has been able to spend a lot of time on the plugin and it's
going to improve rapidly.
But Ken, talking to us in a fashion that resembles you talking to us
like you paid for professional support will rapidly get you
marginalized and/or ignored. You are obviously not doing it
intentionally, no usually is, and people get frustrated when they need
to get their shit done. But everyone needs to get their shit done.
The best thing you can do is make a test case that expresses the
problem and submit it. Telling us everything is wrong in a stream of
emails isn't going to help us fix the problem as there is no way we
can reproduce, easily, what you are describing.
I think Eugene has been a good sport and you're lucky he hasn't
unleashed the fiery Russian vitriolic open source drop kick of death
on your ass. When performed this instantly renders you powerless to
get anything done in any open project anywhere in the world. You don't
want that. He's probably the person most able to help you. If he
thinks you're being a big weiner, and you're treating him like he's
your help desk it's not likely he's going to ever make the effort to
help you. Human nature plays out on open source mailing lists just
like anywhere else. People who have given him tests almost always get
a swift and effective response.
There are folks working on the plugin full-time so it is going to get
better.
That said there should be a nice treat for you all next week. Santa
Claus was late this year.
We'd all love to see the plugin do more things with fewer bugs. The
trick is being part of the solution. And yes, distinguishing where
things could improve is a good place to start.
Doug (m2 plugin user)
P.S. The 0.11 plugin version is available at this Eclipse update
site: http://m2eclipse.codehaus.org/update/
P.P.S. Maven2 support for NetBeans works very well out of the box.
It even supports multi-module builds by creating new IDE projects on
the fly as submodules are opened.
On 1/8/08, nhhockeyplayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can someone offer a solution so this plugin for eclipse?
Installation is buggy and no way can i find version 0.0.0.10 to
0.0.0.11
version 12 is unusable
cannot configurea local repo either
It is really a mess.
Web sites need to be cleaned up too
Installation needs to be cleaned up
Bugs need to be fixed
Hello ?
Where can I get a previous version? The web site states nothing. It
just
points me to the update URL's and both update and update-dev produce
an
unusable tool.
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Best regards
Ken in nashua
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