For reference, the SSVD runs in a fixed number of map-reduce phases
(Dmitriy can say exactly how many, but it is on the order of 3-4 without
computing U or V and without power iterations).  I think that the cost of
each map-reduce is roughly O(N d^2).

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Jake Mannix <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Danny Bickson <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> > Regarding the Ritz transformation - it depends on the sparsity of A and
> the
> > number of iterations whether the final product for computing U should be
> > done using your technique of
> > U ~= A V D^-1 or not.
> >
>
> Almost everything in DistributedRowMatrix assumes that matrices are sparse.
> If they are dense, many of these operations will blow up with OOM in
> unexpected
> places if the dimensions are at all large, but I don't know, I don't ever
> run on
> completely dense matrices.
>
> Mahout SVD is optimized for input matrix being bounded in numCols, small in
> truncated rank, and sparse.  numRows can be effectively unbounded, given
> enough hardware.  But numCols * truncatedRank must < RAM of the launching
> JVM (not mappers/reducers).
>
>  -jake
>
>
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Jake Mannix <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For reference, look in DistributedRowMatrix#timesSquared(Vector), which
> > is
> > > contained on lines 227-247.  JobClient.runJob() is called only one
> time,
> > > running
> > > the TimesSquaredJob (a single map-reduce job).'
> > >
> > >  -jake
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Danny Bickson <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > K passes over the data - where in each pass you multiply once by A
> and
> > > once
> > > > by A' I call 2K passes over the data.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Jake Mannix <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Danny Bickson <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I meant to write: twice in case of a rectangular matrix.
> > > > > > By the way, if you want to have the two sides matrices
> > [U,D,V]=svd(A)
> > > > > > You will need to run Lanczos twice: once with A and another time
> > with
> > > > A'.
> > > > > > So run time should be doubled.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Neither of these statements are actually correct: for a rectangular
> > > > matrix,
> > > > > if you want the
> > > > > top K singular vectors and values, you will make K passes over the
> > data
> > > > > (not 2K) each
> > > > > one being an operation of (A'A)*v without ever computing A'A
> itself.
> > > >  This
> > > > > operation
> > > > > "timesSquared(Vector)", for a matrix with row i having d_i nonzero
> > > > entries,
> > > > > will scale like
> > > > > sum_i(d_i^2), but still only one pass over the data.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, once you have run Lanczos over A, and gotten the matrix V
> out,
> > > you
> > > > > can recover
> > > > > U in O(1) map-reduce operations, by use of the identity: U = A * V
> *
> > > D^-1
> > > > >
> > > > >  -jake
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Danny Bickson <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In each Lanczos iteration you multiply by the matrix A (in case
> > of
> > > a
> > > > > > > square matrix)
> > > > > > > or twice, by the matrix A' and A. Multiplication is linear in
> the
> > > > > number
> > > > > > > of non zero edges.
> > > > > > > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanczos_algorithm
> > > > > > > Finally a decomposition of a tridiagonal matrix T for
> extracting
> > > the
> > > > > > > eigenvalues.
> > > > > > > I think it is also linear in the number of iterations (since
> the
> > > size
> > > > > of
> > > > > > T
> > > > > > > is number of iterations+1). Note that this code is not
> > distributed
> > > > > since
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > can be efficiently done on a single node.
> > > > > > > The last step is the Ritz transformation - a product of the
> > > > > intermediate
> > > > > > > vectors v
> > > > > > > with the eigenvectors. This step may be heavy since those
> > matrices
> > > > are
> > > > > > > typically dense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2011/12/12 Fernando Fernández <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> This is a question for everybody, though it may be better
> > answered
> > > > by
> > > > > > Jake
> > > > > > >> Mannix. Do you guys know what is the complexity of the
> algorithm
> > > > > > >> implemented in mahout for Lancos SVD? Linear, quadratic, etc..
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks in advance!!
> > > > > > >> Fernando.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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