There was a bug in Mahout 0.7 regarding the doc/topic outputs,
can you try your little test on trunk, and see if you get a more
sensible / interpretable result?


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Mark Wicks <[email protected]> wrote:

> I apologize for posting this again.  I sent it during the weekend and
> didn't get any response (which seems unusual for this list :)).
> I am hoping that someone with some LDA/cvb experience who can help
> might have missed it over the weekend.
> Can someone tell me (1) if the document-topic distribution below makes
> sense for the term frequencies shown and (2) how I should interpret
> it.
>
> Mark Wicks
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Mark Wicks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am having trouble interpreting the "doc-topic" distribution produced
> > by the cvb implementation of LDA in Mahout 0.7. Here's the
> > term-frequency matrix for a simple test case (shown here as the output
> > of mahout seqdumper):
> >
> > Key: /d01: Value: /d01:{0:30.0,1:10.0}
> > Key: /d02: Value: /d02:{0:60.0,1:20.0}
> > Key: /d03: Value: /d03:{0:30.0,1:10.0}
> > Key: /d04: Value: /d04:{0:60.0,1:20.0}
> > Key: /x01: Value: /x01:{2:30.0,3:10.0}
> > Key: /x02: Value: /x02:{2:60.0,3:20.0}
> > Key: /x03: Value: /x03:{2:30.0,3:10.0}
> > Count: 7
> >
> > The intent here was that the d01 through d04 documents would consist
> almost
> > entirely of one topic represented almost entirely by terms 0 and 1
> > with a topic-term
> > distribution of [0.75, 0.25, epsilon, epsilon] and that the x01
> > through x03 documents
> > would consist almost entirely of a second topic represented almost
> entirely by
> > terms 2 and 3 with a topic-term distribution of [epsilon, epsilon,
> > 0.75, 0.25]. Since
> > the "d" documents do not contain terms 2 or 3 and the "x" documents do
> > not contain
> > terms 0 or 1, I expected to see document topic distributions that were
> > approximately
> > equal to
> >
> > d01: 1 0
> > d01: 1 0
> > d02: 1 0
> > d03: 1 0
> > x01: 0 1
> > x02: 0 1
> > x03: 0 1
> >
> > I ran the following command (where the simplelda/sparse/matrix directory
> > contained the previous term frequency matrix). The algorithm ran to
> completion
> > (meaning that it converged before the maximum number of iterations was
> > exceeded).
> >
> > mahout  cvb \
> >    -i simplelda/sparse/matrix \
> >    -dict simplelda/sparse/dictionary.file-0 \
> >    -ow -o simplelda/cvb-topics \
> >    -dt simplelda/cvb-classifications \
> >         -tf  0.25 \
> >    -block 4 \
> >    -x 20 \
> >    -cd 1e-10 \
> >    -k 2 \
> >    --tempDir simplelda/temp-k2 \
> >    -seed 6956
> >
> > The topic-term frequencies written to simplelda/cvb-topics were accurate
> and as
> > expected:
> >
> >
> {0:0.7499999999895863,1:0.2499999999548601,2:2.7776873636508568E-11,3:2.777682733874987E-11}
> >
> {0:9.375466996550278E-11,1:9.375456577819702E-11,2:0.7499999998802006,3:0.24999999993229008}
> >
> > However, the document-topic distribution output written to
> > simplelda/cvbclassifications was not at all what I expected:
> >
> > Key: 0: Value: {0:0.05705773500297721,1:0.9429422649970228}
> > Key: 1: Value: {0:0.05705773500297721,1:0.9429422649970228}
> > Key: 2: Value: {0:0.05705773500297721,1:0.9429422649970228}
> > Key: 3: Value: {0:0.05705773500297721,1:0.9429422649970228}
> > Key: 4: Value: {0:0.4335650246424872,1:0.5664349753575127}
> > Key: 5: Value: {0:0.4335650246424872,1:0.5664349753575127}
> > Key: 6: Value: {0:0.4335650246424872,1:0.5664349753575127}
> > Count: 7
> >
> > These are called "doc-topic distributions" in the help output, so I
> > interpreted this to
> > mean that the estimator concluded the "d" document terms were most
> likely all
> > drawn from the second topic. But the "d" documents contain no terms from
> the
> > second topic! Likewise, the "x" documents contain no terms from the
> > first topic, so
> > why is there a relatively large value (0.4335) in the first column. If
> > this document-
> > topic distribution produced by cvb is correct, what does it represent?
>



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  -jake

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