Excellent. From Ellen's description the first Music use may be an implicit 
preference based recommender using synthetic  data? I'm quickly discovering how 
flexible Solr use is in many of these cases.

Here's another use you may have thought of:

Shopping cart recommenders, as goes the intuition, are best modeled as 
recommending from similar item-sets. If you store all shopping carts as your 
training data (play lists, watch lists etc.) then as a user adds things to 
their cart you query for the most similar past carts. Combine the results 
intelligently and you'll have an item set recommender. Solr is built to do this 
item-set similarity. We tried to do this for a ecom site with pure Mahout but 
the similarity calc in real time stymied us. We knew we'd need Solr but 
couldn't devote the resources to spin it up.

On the Con-side Solr has a lot of stuff you have to work around. It also does 
not have the ideal similarity measure for many uses (cosine is ok but llr would 
probably be better). You don't want stop word filtering, stemming, white space 
based tokenizing or n-grams. You would like explicit weighting. A good thing 
about Solr is how well it integrates with virtually any doc store independent 
of the indexing and query. A bit of an oval peg for a round hole.

It looks like the similarity code is replaceable if not pluggable. Much of the 
rest could be trimmed away by config or adherence to conventions I suspect. In 
the demo site I'm working on I've had to adopt some slightly hacky conventions 
that I'll describe some day. 

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:


Pat,

Ellen and some folks in Britain have been working with some data I produced 
from synthetic music fans.


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ellen,


On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:


As requested, 

Pat, meet Ellen.

Ellen, meet Pat.




On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
Tunneling (rat-holing?) into the cross-recommender and Solr+Mahout version.

Things to note:
1) The pure Mahout XRecommenderJob needs a cross-LLR or a cross-similairty job. 
Currently there is only cooccurrence for sparsification, which is far from 
optimal. This might take the form of a cross RSJ with two DRMs as input. I 
can't commit to this but would commit to adding it to the XRecommenderJob.
2) output to Solr needs a lot of options implemented and tested. The hand-run 
test should be made into some junits. I'm slowly doing this.
3) the Solr query API is unimplemented unless someone else is working on that. 
I'm building one in a demo site but it looks to me like a static recommender 
API is not going to be all that useful and maybe a document describing how to 
do it with the Solr query interface would be best, especially for a first step. 
The reasoning here is that it is so tempting to mix in metadata to the 
recommendation query that a static API is not so obvious. For the demo site the 
recommender API will be prototyped in a bunch of ways using models and 
controllers in Rails. If I'm the one to do the a Java Solr-recommender query 
API it will be after experimenting a bit.

Can someone introduce me to Ellen and Tim?

On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:

The one large-ish feature that I think would find general use would be a high 
performance classifier trainer.

Flor cleanup sort of thing it would be good to fully integrate the streaming 
k-means into the normal clustering commands while revamping the command line 
API.

Dmitriy's recent scala work would help quite a bit before 1.0. Not sure it can 
make 0.9.

For recommendations, I think that the demo system that pat started with the 
elaborations by Ellen an Tim would be very good to have.

I would be happy to collaborate with somebody on these but am not at all likely 
to have time to actually do them end to end.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:40, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> Moving closer to 1.0, removing cruft, etc.  Do we have any more major 
> features planned for 1.0?  I think we said during 0.8 that we would try to 
> follow pretty quickly w/ another release.
>
> -Grant
>
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds right in principle but perhaps a bit soon.
>>
>> What would define the release?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 7:48, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone interested in thinking about 0.9 in the early Nov. time frame?
>>>
>>> -Grant
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Grant Ingersoll | @gsingers
> http://www.lucidworks.com
>
>
>
>
>





Reply via email to