This talk of support and overlap smacks of very poor coocccurrence analysis.

See http://tdunning.blogspot.com/2008/03/surprise-and-coincidence.html for
a better option.


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Tim Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Very awesome, thank you!  I am twisting the support knob right now!
>
> Sequential analysis in the sense that I A/B test my recommendations and
> feed the conversion rates back into my next set of recommendations or
> something else?
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Item recommendation w/o users or preferences
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:53:41 +0000
> >
> > My mail crossed with yours. Try market basket analysis and sequential
> analysis. With the market basket analysis, there are often a lot of
> frequent basket combinations that are not that useful. You may want to
> lower the support to get some more infrequent combinations, but up the
> confidence level.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Rachel
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Tim Smith [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:39 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Item recommendation w/o users or preferences
> >
> > Yes, thank you - read through it and several of the item and user
> recommendation examples.  The objective is to recommend based on the
> current basket - given no users/preferences (but I do have a history of
> transactions) - I have been able to leverage the item mining algorithm to
> calculate support and confidence values.  When I use a support threshold of
> 10% and group by product and sort descending on confidence I am left we a
> ranking of item combos.  Basically a top N list by item that I would use to
> drive the recommendations.  In the actual use case, the requirement is not
> to recommend a product every time, rather the most likely products based on
> a given basket - with my arbitrary thresholds, I would expect to exclude
> some baskets.
> >
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: Item recommendation w/o users or preferences
> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:08:30 +0000
> > >
> > > I think the key question is what is the desired outcome? If you don't
> have users (customers) for which you'd like to generate recommendations
> that really handcuffs you from a recommendation standpoint.
> > >
> > > I'd recommend starting with a read through this:
> http://mahout.apache.org/users/recommender/recommender-first-timer-faq.htmlto 
> get a feel for what Mahout does in the recommendation space.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tim Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:27 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Item recommendation w/o users or preferences
> > >
> > > Say I have a retail organization that doesn't sell a diverse set of
> products, eg 2000, but has many small transactions.  Also say that I don't
> have any user or preference information.  Is it reasonable to use pattern
> mining (market baskets) and recommend items based on a set of thresholds
> for support, confidence, and lift?  If not, what are my options?
> > >
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