Hi guys,

Just to let you know what’s going on - for informational purposes more than 
anything.

I initially tried taking the AMP file provided in the MCF plugins directory 
(0.7.0) and tried to install it into Alfresco but got a message saying a file 
was missing.

Instead, I cloned the repository on GitHub for the alfresco-indexer project and 
then built it on my local machine. This generated the AMP file (0.7.2). 

I was able to successfully install the AMP file onto my Alfresco instance. 

As it happens I now cannot log into Alfresco Share ('bad credentials or server 
not available' message) but that is something I can work on. Apparently the 
installation of some AMP files have been known to cause this issue. 

So, progress to a point!

Paul Farrell
Senior Search Consultant
 
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> On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:36, Rafa Haro <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> At the Alfresco side, hope this helps:
> 
> http://docs.alfresco.com/4.1/tasks/amp-install.html 
> <http://docs.alfresco.com/4.1/tasks/amp-install.html>
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Karl Wright <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> The AMP file is actually shipped as part of the binary MCF distribution.  You 
> can find it under "plugins".
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Hopefully this will be my only request for information today. 
> I’m afraid this is a bit of a newbie question but I have managed to get the 
> Manifold UI to now show ‘Alfresco Webscripts’ as a connector. The only bit I 
> am missing now is to install the AMP file in Afresco. 
> 
> I realise that this is slightly outside of the Manifold remit but I wondered 
> if anyone can advise how I build the AMP file from the URL 
> (https://github.com/maoo/alfresco-indexer 
> <https://github.com/maoo/alfresco-indexer>)? I have cloned the repository to 
> my local drive but, having never worked with Maven, am at a loss at how to 
> generate the AMP file that I then need to install into Alfresco. 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
>> On 19 Oct 2015, at 17:36, Karl Wright <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> The only way you can have such a reduced list of connectors is if somebody 
>> commented out many connectors in your connectors.xml, or removed them from 
>> the database table where they are registered by hand.
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> After a good deal of time clicking around I came to the same conclusion - 
>> that there is no way of telling from the UI!!
>> 
>> Having dug a bit deeper I believe I may actually have the Alfresco WebScript 
>> connectors installed. At least the 0.7.0 version. I notice in the ‘lib’ 
>> directory that I have ‘alfresco-indexer-webscripts-0.7.0.amp.
>> 
>> Looking in the ‘connectors.xml’ file I can also see the line :
>> 
>> <repositoryconnector name="Alfresco Webscript" 
>> class="org.apache.manifoldcf.crawler.connectors.alfrescowebscript.AlfrescoConnector”/>
>> 
>> You can imagine my excitement!
>> 
>> The only thing I am missing is the option in the UI. When I click to create 
>> a new repo connection I get:  CMIS, Dropbox, Generic, GoogleDrive, HDFS, 
>> Jira, Meridio, RSS, Sharepoint. 
>> 
>> Perhaps I am hoping for too much to hope that I can make a simple change to 
>> enable this repo connection?
>> 
>> Thanks for all the help everyone 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2015, at 17:26, Karl Wright <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hah; there's not a way to inquire in the UI, if that's what you mean.  But 
>>> if you see "Alfresco webscript" in the list of repository connection types, 
>>> you've got a version that supports that connector.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Thanks Rafa.
>>> 
>>> As an aside, is there an easy way to identify which version of ManifoldCF 
>>> you are on?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paul Farrell
>>> Senior Search Consultant
>>>  
>>> 109-123 Clifton Street, London EC2A 4LD
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On 19 Oct 2015, at 16:54, Rafa Haro <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Paul, 
>>>> 
>>>> All you need to do is to install this webscript 
>>>> <https://github.com/maoo/alfresco-indexer> within your Alfresco instance. 
>>>> The connector itself is already part of the most recent versions of 
>>>> ManifoldCF
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Rafa
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Ok, thanks again guys. 
>>>> 
>>>> The Webscript connector it is. 
>>>> 
>>>> I realise I am asking a lot here but are there any easy-to-follow 
>>>> guidelines on how to get this Webscript connector installed?  I see there 
>>>> is a GitHub page here 
>>>> (https://github.com/maoo/alfresco-webscript-manifold-connector 
>>>> <https://github.com/maoo/alfresco-webscript-manifold-connector>) which 
>>>> discusses it (although it directs you to a repository of files). 
>>>> 
>>>> I am just keen to make sure that any steps I follow to try and get this 
>>>> Webscript connector installed and working are updated, reliable steps. I 
>>>> would hate to waste time with out of date information. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks all
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Oct 2015, at 16:23, Muhammed Olgun <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suggest that you should use Alfresco Webscript as Karl mentioned. Web 
>>>>> services is so slow compared to other services and I've also checked that 
>>>>> Alfresco CMIS web services does not return change token(may be there is 
>>>>> something that I don't know). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way current version of CMIS connector is not aware of change 
>>>>> token. I would write a patch for you if alfresco supports change token 
>>>>> property.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Muhammed 
>>>>> 19 Eki 2015 Pzt, saat 18:11 tarihinde Karl Wright <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> şunu yazdı:
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Alfresco Webscript connector is a wholly different connector that has 
>>>>> no relation to the CMIS connector.  It requires an Alfresco webscript 
>>>>> plugin be installed on your Alfresco server to work, though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Karl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Muhammed/Karl,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Firstly, thank-you so much for taking the time to reply. It is very much 
>>>>> appreciated. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Currently I am using the AtomPub for my CMIS repository connection. I 
>>>>> have just read something which may shed a little light on this. The post 
>>>>> read that change tokens are not passed via AtomPub connections 
>>>>> (https://forums.alfresco.com/forum/developer-discussions/alfresco-api/cmis-change-log-token-problem-using-opencmis-03282011-1758
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://forums.alfresco.com/forum/developer-discussions/alfresco-api/cmis-change-log-token-problem-using-opencmis-03282011-1758>).
>>>>>  If true, this would explain why ManifoldCF may be unable to determine a 
>>>>> change in Alfresco.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like I have two possible options left open to me (correct me if 
>>>>> I’m wrong):
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. I look to use ‘Web Services’ instead of ‘AtomPub’ for the connection 
>>>>> mechanism
>>>>> 2. I upgrade ManifoldCF so that I can use the ‘Web Scripts’ connector?  
>>>>> (or is this the same as the ‘Web Services’ connection mentioned above?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul Farrell
>>>>> Senior Search Consultant
>>>>>  
>>>>> 109-123 Clifton Street, London EC2A 4LD
>>>>> T +44 (0) 207 183 6865 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29%20207%20183%206865> | 
>>>>> funnelback.com <http://www.funnelback.com/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> UNITED KINGDOM | AUSTRALIA | NEW ZEALAND | POLAND | UNITED STATES
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19 Oct 2015, at 15:12, Muhammed Olgun <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Repositories should give information to ManifoldCF when they updated. 
>>>>>> Current CMIS connector reindex document if the lastest version of the 
>>>>>> document has changed, not updated. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is a change token property in CMIS specification and it should 
>>>>>> change when document is updated so ManifoldCF can understand that 
>>>>>> document is updated but implementing change token property is optional.  
>>>>>> I've checked Alfresco's CMIS web site and seen that they didn't set the 
>>>>>> change token.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think, there is nothing we can do at this point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 19 Eki 2015 Pzt, 15:59 tarihinde, Karl Wright <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> şunu yazdı:
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This looks like a bug in the CMIS connector to me; usually the document 
>>>>>> version string the connector constructs should be adequate to detect all 
>>>>>> changes.  Can you create a ticket?  https://issues.apache.org/jira 
>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira> , project ManifoldCF.  Please include 
>>>>>> what version of MCF you are using here.  FWIW, this may be in fact a bug 
>>>>>> in the Alfresco CMIS implementation, but we'll have to have some back 
>>>>>> and forth before I can determine that for sure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the meantime, have you considered using the Alfresco Webscript 
>>>>>> connector?  It's the preferred way to do Alfresco indexing, although 
>>>>>> there have been issues reported having to do with running it on some 
>>>>>> configurations of Alfresco.  I'm not entirely sure what the problem is 
>>>>>> there; maybe a version dependency of some kind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Paul Farrell <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hoping someone may be able to advise.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am currently using Manifold, together with a CMIS connector, to 
>>>>>> retrieve and index content from an Alfresco repository.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All is going well apart from, what I would call, the ‘incremental crawl’.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The main issue I am having is that the modification of a document’s 
>>>>>> security settings, in Alfresco, is not being picked up in next Manifold 
>>>>>> crawl. As an example I have a document ‘TestDoc1’ which has user A and B 
>>>>>> as Consumers. I run a crawl in Manifold and it picks up the documents 
>>>>>> fine.  The security is set as expected. I then remove ‘User A’ from the 
>>>>>> security of that document and re-run the Manifold crawl. User A can 
>>>>>> still see the document in the local search engine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is as if Manifold is not treating the security update as a 
>>>>>> ‘modification’ and is therefore not refreshing it. Note that if I go 
>>>>>> into the Output Connections, edit and save the relevant output 
>>>>>> connection and then click ‘Remove all associated documents’, the next 
>>>>>> time I crawl, the changes are picked up. It is clear that Manifold is 
>>>>>> just not updating whatever internal record it has for this item.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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