Forgot to mention, unless you have a custom executor that you launch as a
docker container (by putting DockerInfo in the ExecutorInfo in your
TaskInfo), you can then re-use that executor for multiple tasks.

Tim

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Tim Chen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sharma,
>
> Yes currently docker doesn't really support (out-of-box) launching
> multiple processes in the same container. They just recently added docker
> exec but not quite clear how it's best fit in mesos integration yet.
>
> So each task run in the Docker containerizer has to be a seperate
> container for now.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Sharma Podila <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, although, there's a nuance to this specific situation. Here, the
>> same executor is being used for multiple tasks, but, the executor is
>> launching a different Docker container for each task. I was extending the
>> coarse grain allocation concept to within the executor (which is in a fine
>> grained allocation model).
>> What you mention, we do use already for a different framework, not the
>> one Diptanu is talking about.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Connor Doyle <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You're right Sharma, it's dependent upon the framework.  If your
>>> scheduler sets a unique ExecutorID for each TaskInfo, then the executor
>>> will not be re-used and you won't have to worry about resizing the
>>> executor's container to accomodate subsequent tasks.  This might be a
>>> reasonable simplification to start with, especially if your executor adds
>>> relatively low resource overhead.
>>> --
>>> Connor
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Dec 3, 2014, at 10:20, Sharma Podila <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This may have to do with fine-grain Vs coarse-grain resource
>>> allocation. Things may be easier for you, Diptanu, if you are using one
>>> Docker container per task (sort of coarse grain). In that case, I believe
>>> there's no need to alter a running Docker container's resources. Instead,
>>> the resource update of your executor translates into the right Docker
>>> containers running. There's some details to be worked out there, I am sure.
>>> > It sounds like Tom's strategy uses the same Docker container for
>>> multiple tasks. Tom, do correct me otherwise.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Tom Arnfeld <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > When Mesos is asked to a launch a task (with either a custom Executor
>>> or the built in CommandExecutor) it will first spawn the executor which
>>> _has_ to be a system process, launched via command. This process will be
>>> launched inside of a Docker container when using the previously mentioned
>>> containerizers.
>>> >
>>> > Once the Executor registers with the slave, the slave will send it a
>>> number of launchTask calls based on the number of tasks queued up for that
>>> executor. The Executor can then do as it pleases with those tasks, whether
>>> it's just a sleep(1) or to spawn a subprocess and do some other work. Given
>>> it is possible for the framework to specify resources for both tasks and
>>> executors, and the only thing which _has_ to be a system process is the
>>> executor, the mesos slave will limit the resources of the executor process
>>> to the sum of (TaskInfo.Executor.Resources + TaskInfo.Resources).
>>> >
>>> > Mesos also has the ability to launch new tasks on an already running
>>> executor, so it's important that mesos is able to dynamically scale the
>>> resource limits up and down over time. Designing a framework around this
>>> idea can lead to some complex and powerful workflows which would be a lot
>>> more complex to build without Mesos.
>>> >
>>> > Just for an example... Spark.
>>> >
>>> > 1) User launches a job on spark to map over some data
>>> > 2) Spark launches a first wave of tasks based on the offers it
>>> received (let's say T1 and T2)
>>> > 3) Mesos launches executors for those tasks (let's say E1 and E2) on
>>> different slaves
>>> > 4) Spark launches another wave of tasks based on offers, and tells
>>> mesos to use the same executor (E1 and E2)
>>> > 5) Mesos will simply call launchTasks(T{3,4}) on the two already
>>> running executors
>>> >
>>> > At point (3) mesos is going to launch a Docker container and execute
>>> your executor. However at (5) the executor is already running so the tasks
>>> will be handed to the already running executor.
>>> >
>>> > Mesos will guarantee you (i'm 99% sure) that the resources for your
>>> container have been updated to reflect the limits set on the tasks before
>>> handing the tasks to you.
>>> >
>>> > I hope that makes some sense!
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Tom Arnfeld
>>> > Developer // DueDil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Diptanu Choudhury <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the explanation Tom, yeah I just figured that out by
>>> reading your code! You're touching the memory.soft_limit_in_bytes and
>>> memory.limit_in_bytes directly.
>>> >
>>> > Still curios to understand in which situations Mesos Slave would call
>>> the external containerizer to update the resource limits of a container? My
>>> understanding was that once resource allocation happens for a task,
>>> resources are not taken away until the task exits[fails, crashes or
>>> finishes] or Mesos asks the slave to kill the task.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:47 AM, Tom Arnfeld <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Hi Diptanu,
>>> >
>>> > That's correct, the ECP has the responsibility of updating the
>>> resource for a container, and it will do as new tasks are launched and
>>> killed for an executor. Since docker doesn't support this, our
>>> containerizer (Deimos does the same) goes behind docker to the cgroup for
>>> the container and updates the resources in a very similar way to the
>>> mesos-slave. I believe this is also what the built in Docker containerizer
>>> will do.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/duedil-ltd/mesos-docker-containerizer/blob/master/containerizer/commands/update.py#L35
>>> >
>>> > Tom.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Tom Arnfeld
>>> > Developer // DueDil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Diptanu Choudhury <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I had a quick question about the external containerizer. I see that
>>> once the Task is launched, the ECP can receive the update calls, and the
>>> protobuf message passed to ECP with the update call is
>>> containerizer::Update.
>>> >
>>> > This protobuf has a Resources [list] field so does that mean Mesos
>>> might ask a running task to re-adjust the enforced resource limits?
>>> >
>>> > How would this work if the ECP was launching docker containers because
>>> Docker doesn't allow changing the resource limits once the container has
>>> been started?
>>> >
>>> > I am wondering how does Deimos and mesos-docker-containerizer handle
>>> this.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Diptanu Choudhury
>>> > Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
>>> > Twitter - @diptanu
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Diptanu Choudhury
>>> > Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
>>> > Twitter - @diptanu
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
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