Hey guys,

just a quick note to bring back the conversation on track to the 0.24-RC1
release.
Is my understanding correct that there are currently no binding -1's?

@Vinod: what do you think, are we good to release?

Thanks!

*Marco Massenzio*

*Distributed Systems Engineerhttp://codetrips.com <http://codetrips.com>*

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Dario Rexin <[email protected]> wrote:

> One more question. From the Mesos code it doesn’t look like events are
> being split or combined, so given I have a client that gives me access to
> the individual chunks, is it safe to assume that each chunk contains
> exactly one event? Because that would make parsing the events a lot easier
> for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Dario
>
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 8:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Hi Vinod,
>
> thanks for the explanation, I got it now.
>
> Thanks,
> Dario
>
> On 31.08.2015, at 23:47, Vinod Kone <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think you might be confused with the HTTP chunked encoding and RecordIO
> encoding. Most HTTP client libraries dechunk the stream before presenting
> it to the application. So the application needs to know the encoding of the
> dechunked data to be able to process it.
>
> In Mesos's case, the server (master here) can encode it in JSON or
> Protobuf. We wanted to have a consistent way to encode both these formats
> and Record-IO format was the one we settled on. Note that this format is
> also used by the Twitter streaming API
> <https://dev.twitter.com/streaming/overview/processing> (see delimited
> messages section).
>
> HTH,
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Dario Rexin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vino,
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Vinod Kone <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dario,
>>
>> Can you test with "curl --no-buffer" option? Looks like your stdout might
>> be line-buffered.
>>
>>
>> that did the trick, thanks!
>>
>>
>> The reason we used record-io formatting is to be consistent in how we
>> stream protobuf and json encoded data.
>>
>>
>> How does simple chunked encoding prevent you from doing this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dario
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:04 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Anand,
>>>
>>> thanks for the explanation. I didn't think about the case when you have
>>> to split a message, now it makes sense.
>>>
>>> But the case I observed with curl is still weird. Even when splitting a
>>> message, it should still receive both parts almost at the same time. Do you
>>> have any idea why it could behave like this?
>>>
>>> On 28.08.2015, at 21:31, Anand Mazumdar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dario,
>>>
>>> Most HTTP libraries/parsers ( including one that Mesos uses internally )
>>> provide a way to specify a default size of each chunk. If a Mesos Event is
>>> too big , it would get split into smaller chunks and vice-versa.
>>>
>>> -anand
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 11:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Anand,
>>>
>>> in the example from my first mail you can see that curl prints the size
>>> of a message and then waits for the next message and only when it receives
>>> that message it will print the prior message plus the size of the next
>>> message, but not the actual message.
>>>
>>> What's the benefit of encoding multiple messages in a single chunk? You
>>> could simply create a single chunk per event.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dario
>>>
>>> On 28.08.2015, at 19:43, Anand Mazumdar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dario,
>>>
>>> Can you shed a bit more light on what you still find puzzling about the
>>> CURL behavior after my explanation ?
>>>
>>> PS: A single HTTP chunk can have 0 or more Mesos (Scheduler API) Events.
>>> So in your example, the first chunk had complete information about the
>>> first “event”, followed by partial information about the subsequent event
>>> from another chunk.
>>>
>>> As for the benefit of using RecordIO format here, how else do you think
>>> we could have de-marcated two events in the response ?
>>>
>>> -anand
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Anand,
>>>
>>> thanks for the explanation. I'm still a little puzzled why curl behaves
>>> so strange. I will check how other client behave as soon as I have a chance.
>>>
>>> Vinod,
>>>
>>> what exactly is the benefit of using recordio here? Doesn't it make the
>>> content-type somewhat wrong? If I send 'Accept: application/json' and
>>> receive 'Content-Type: application/json', I actually expect to receive only
>>> json in the message.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dario
>>>
>>> On 28.08.2015, at 18:13, Vinod Kone <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm happy to add the "\n" after the event (note it's different from
>>> chunk) if that makes CURL play nicer. I'm not sure about the "\r" part
>>> though? Is that a nice to have or does it have some other benefit?
>>>
>>> The design doc is not set in the stone since this has not been released
>>> yet. So definitely want to do the right/easy thing.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Anand Mazumdar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dario,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the detailed explanation and for trying out the new API.
>>>> However, this is not a bug. The output from CURL is the encoding used by
>>>> Mesos for the events stream. From the user doc
>>>> <https://github.com/apache/mesos/blob/master/docs/scheduler_http_api.md>
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> *"Master encodes each Event in RecordIO format, i.e., string
>>>> representation of length of the event in bytes followed by JSON or binary
>>>> Protobuf  (possibly compressed) encoded event. Note that the value of
>>>> length will never be ‘0’ and the size of the length will be the size of
>>>> unsigned integer (i.e., 64 bits). Also, note that the RecordIO encoding
>>>> should be decoded by the scheduler whereas the underlying HTTP chunked
>>>> encoding is typically invisible at the application (scheduler) layer.“*
>>>>
>>>> If you run CURL with tracing enabled i.e. —trace, the output would be
>>>> something similar to this:
>>>>
>>>> <= Recv header, 2 bytes (0x2)
>>>> 0000: 0d 0a                                           ..
>>>> <= Recv data, 115 bytes (0x73)
>>>> 0000: 36 64 0d 0a 31 30 35 0a 7b 22 73 75 62 73 63 72 6d..105.{"subscr
>>>> 0010: 69 62 65 64 22 3a 7b 22 66 72 61 6d 65 77 6f 72 ibed":{"framewor
>>>> 0020: 6b 5f 69 64 22 3a 7b 22 76 61 6c 75 65 22 3a 22 k_id":{"value":"
>>>> 0030: 32 30 31 35 30 38 32 35 2d 31 30 33 30 31 38 2d 20150825-103018-
>>>> 0040: 33 38 36 33 38 37 31 34 39 38 2d 35 30 35 30 2d 3863871498-5050-
>>>> 0050: 31 31 38 35 2d 30 30 31 30 22 7d 7d 2c 22 74 79 1185-0010"}},"ty
>>>> 0060: 70 65 22 3a 22 53 55 42 53 43 52 49 42 45 44 22 pe":"SUBSCRIBED"
>>>> 0070: 7d 0d 0a                                        }..
>>>> <others
>>>>
>>>> In the output above, the chunks are correctly delimited by ‘CRLF' (0d
>>>> 0a) as per the HTTP RFC. As mentioned earlier, the output that you observe
>>>> on stdout with CURL is of the Record-IO encoding used for the events stream
>>>> ( and is not related to the RFC ):
>>>>
>>>> event = event-size LF
>>>>              event-data
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to more bug reports as you try out the new API !
>>>>
>>>> -anand
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:56 AM, Dario Rexin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -1 (non-binding)
>>>>
>>>> I found a breaking bug in the new HTTP API. The messages do not conform
>>>> to the HTTP standard for chunked transfer encoding. in RFC 2616 Sec. 3 (
>>>> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html) a chunk is
>>>> defined as:
>>>>
>>>> chunk = chunk-size [ chunk-extension ] CRLF
>>>>         chunk-data CRLF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The HTTP API currently sends a chunk as:
>>>>
>>>> chunk = chunk-size LF
>>>>         chunk-data
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A standard conform HTTP client like curl can’t correctly interpret the
>>>> data as a complete chunk. In curl it currently looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> 104
>>>>
>>>> {"subscribed":{"framework_id":{"value":"20150820-114552-16777343-5050-43704-0000"}},"type":"SUBSCRIBED"}20
>>>> {"type":"HEARTBEAT”}666
>>>> …. waiting …
>>>>
>>>> {"offers":{"offers":[{"agent_id":{"value":"20150820-114552-16777343-5050-43704-S0"},"framework_id":{"value":"20150820-114552-16777343-5050-43704-0000"},"hostname":"localhost","id":{"value":"20150820-114552-16777343-5050-43704-O0"},"resources":[{"name":"cpus","role":"*","scalar":{"value":8},"type":"SCALAR"},{"name":"mem","role":"*","scalar":{"value":15360},"type":"SCALAR"},{"name":"disk","role":"*","scalar":{"value":2965448},"type":"SCALAR"},{"name":"ports","ranges":{"range":[{"begin":31000,"end":32000}]},"role":"*","type":"RANGES"}],"url":{"address":{"hostname":"localhost","ip":"127.0.0.1","port":5051},"path":"\/slave(1)","scheme":"http"}}]},"type":"OFFERS”}20
>>>> … waiting …
>>>> {"type":"HEARTBEAT”}20
>>>> … waiting …
>>>>
>>>> It will receive a couple of messages after successful registration with
>>>> the master and the last thing printed is a number (in this case 666). Then
>>>> after some time it will print the first offers message followed by the
>>>> number 20. The explanation for this behavior is, that curl can’t interpret
>>>> the data it gets from Mesos as a complete chunk and waits for the missing
>>>> data. So it prints what it thinks is a chunk (a message followed by the
>>>> size of the next messsage) and keeps the rest of the message until another
>>>> message arrives and so on. The fix for this is to terminate both lines, the
>>>> message size and the message data, with CRLF.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dario
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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