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On Sep 23, 2015 10:54 PM, "Sharma Podila" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah, OK, thanks. Yes, Fenzo is a Java library.
>
> It might be a nice addition to Mesos master to get a global view of
> contention for resources. In addition to autoscaling, it would be useful in
> the allocator.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Aaron Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sharma,
>>
>> I was in the audience for a talk you did about Fenzo at MesosCon :) It
>> looked great but we're a python shop primarily so the Java requirement
>> would be a problem for us.
>>
>> The scaling in the scheduler makes total sense, (obvious when you think
>> about it!), I was naively hoping for some sort of knowledge of that back in
>> the Mesos master as we were hoping to have scaling be independent of
>> schedulers. I think this'll need a re-think!
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sharma Podila [[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* 23 September 2015 15:22
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Metric for tasks queued/waiting?
>>
>> Jobs/tasks wait in framework schedulers, not mesos master. Autoscaling
>> triggers must come from schedulers, not only because that's who knows the
>> pending task set size, but, also because it knows how many of them need to
>> be launched right away, on what kind of machines.
>>
>> We built such an autoscaling capability in our framework schedulers. The
>> autoscaling is achieved by our library Fenzo
>> <https://github.com/Netflix/Fenzo> which we open sourced recently. Also
>> read about Fenzo autoscaling here
>> <https://github.com/Netflix/Fenzo/wiki/Autoscaling>. You should look
>> into using that if you are developing your own scheduler. Or, have your
>> scheduler team pick up Fenzo for autoscaling.
>>
>> Also, note that scaling up is temptingly easy by watching the pending
>> task queue. But, scaling down requires bin packing, etc. Other issues pop
>> up as well, for example:
>>
>> - what if a user submits tasks that cannot be satisfied? Will autoscale
>> keep increasing the cluster size unbounded?
>> - what if you would like to have a heterogeneous mix of hosts and tasks?
>> which kind of hosts do you need to autoscale based on which tasks are
>> pending?
>>
>> These are automatically addressed in Fenzo.
>>
>> Sharma
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Aaron Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> No, I basically had the same question as Jim (but maybe didn't word it
>>> so well ;))
>>>
>>> I'll have a look at your response there :)
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* haosdent [[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* 23 September 2015 10:12
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Metric for tasks queued/waiting?
>>>
>>> Does /metrics/snapshot not satisfy your requirement?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aaron Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to get a metric of all tasks currently waiting/queued
>>>> in Mesos (across all schedulers)? The snapshot metrics seem to cover ever
>>>> other kind of task state? This would be quite useful for auto-scaling
>>>> purposes..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Haosdent Huang
>>>
>>
>>
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