On 05/11/2016 10:09 AM, Aaron Carey wrote:
What exactly do you mean by deploying a mesos cluster to run on ceph etc?

Do you mean having a clustered file system mounted via nfs to the hosts which 
contains the
mesos binaries?

That would be one way to use a DFS, but low latency on a variety of different linux kernels will be evaluated too. So will the testing of ulibc-ng, musl and other fundamental components, as to the trade offs
of performance vs robustness of supported frameworks.


Or something to do with how jobs are executed?

YES, exactly. In fact, it is most interesting to test with Hi Performance Computing (HPC) on top of Mesos. The simple way to think about one of the ultimate goals of the research is how to completely replace Hadoop with Mesos, a DFS and many other components. Portability, not limited to Arm64v8 is a companion track related to HPC on clusters and bare metal hardware. But most HPC installations moving forward, will have to also support some typical (admin/web/security/AI/etc) types of workloads, as part of the evaluation.


Mesos does seem to be flexible enough for these sorts of explorations
and experiments. There is no inclination for constricting ideas and testing of competing components; only the desire to experiment, share and refine the component mix (aka the cluster-stack), all in open forums. I. E. Cluster-Stack_A vs Cluster-Stack_B etc etc for various workloads, on fixed, modest cluster sizes.


Think of it as experimentation that will eventually lead to published results, such as what mips/mops and various benchmarks have done for hardware, only the cluster-stack is the variable(s) under study.

All ideas, comments and criticisms are most welcome. HDFS is mostly described as the main bottleneck to HPC efforts and much of what folks are doing with various DFS replacements is being too strictly constrained, imho.


James


Aaron Carey
Production Engineer - Cloud Pipeline
Industrial Light & Magic
London
020 3751 9150

________________________________________
From: james [[email protected]]
Sent: 11 May 2016 17:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: distributed file systems

Hello Rodrick,

That EFS looks interesting, but I did not find the location for the
source-code/git download?  I do not remember the (linux) kernel hooks
for that Distributed File System, or is completely on top of the systems
codes?

License details and I'm not sure if it's 100% opensource?

Beegfs [A] is partially opensource, but that does not fit what is needed
for experimentation. A robust community around open sources and tools,
such as github, should have been mentioned. Equally important
is a community keen on sharing and supporting other efforts to replicate
and use the components of these cluster centric codes. [B,C]


James

[A] http://www.beegfs.com/content/

[B] https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=217783

[C]
http://searchaws.techtarget.com/news/4500272286/Amazon-EFS-stuck-in-beta-lacks-native-Windows-support




On 05/11/2016 01:07 AM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Does EFS count? :-)

https://aws.amazon.com/efs/


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On May 10 2016, at 9:07 pm, james <[email protected]> wrote:

     Hello,


     Has anyone customized/compiled mesos and successfully deployed a mesos
     cluster to run on cephfs, orangefs [1], or any other distributed file
     systems?

     If so, some detail on your setup would be appreciated.


     [1]
     http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OrangeFS-Lands-Linux-4.6


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