On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 00:04, Emiliano wrote: > ./configure --help. That's standard.
Aha - that's a new one for me. I'll make a note. Never knew that. > [ tale of try-and-try-again ] > > So basically, the installation process for 1.4.2 is far from flawless. > Had you asked you'd have been directed to our CVS versions, where most > of these things were fixed. Besides that, if you do meet a situation > like this, there's appearantly a few ways to deal with this: Well to be honest, I know nothing about using CVS. Never had the need to use it. Do you download an RPM version of Midgard named "CVS"? (just kidding, I have a general idea of what it is... but have always stayed away from it.) > 1. Experiment (good) then complain to the authors (guess) > 2. Experiment (good) then suggest ways for improvement (good, too many > people think 1. is a informal way of 2. It isn't.) > 3. Ask straight away (good). Personally I've always been of the try n try again then when all else fails check the archives then finally ask once you have half of it working. That's the way I learn best. You know, the whole "don't read the directions until you realize the bicycle you're building will probably have 30 left over pieces" mentality. > Fortunately, there's an easy yet wildly impopular way to fix this: > document the process and submit a HOWTO, which we'll *gladly* include in > the manual, or suggest ways to improve it, preferably with patches. > Welcome to open source. Being such a newbie, I don't consider myself progressed enough to write a HOWTO. By the time I figure out how to get something to work I've tried so much stuff I really have no idea what I did that finally make it happen. > > Thanks for the input and accompanying flame. Geez and I even made an > > effort to find and search the archives... ;-) A newbie just can't win! > > It's got nothing to do with being a newby, or with being ignorant (point > about ignorant != dumb duly noted). It's got to do with how to deal with > people that are going to help you (and I will). Starting out with "this > complex piece of ..." is not likely, in life in general, to make people > enthousiastic about helping you. Unless you're complaining about Windows > to a Linux crowd, I guess. I think you're still going on the assumption that I was attacking you or Midgard, both of which are incorrect assumptions. I apologize that you read my original post that way. I initially did not bore anyone with details of how many times I compiled simply because I assume that everyone else knew enough to not make the same mistakes I did. You proved that by mentioning the "./configure --help" statement above. I'm sure you are the most noble of coders and the Midgard product the best of breed. I only meant to express my own ineptness at making the product work on my bastardized server and little knowledge. -------------- Okay, so back to the task at hand (sorry everyone had to listen to me rant, I guess), let's see if I can actually add something useful to this thread... Considering the current status of my system - stock Mandrake 8.1 Apache and MySQL with a custom build of PHP using internal MySQL support -- plus RPM's of Midgard (all except the PHP module which I built myself from the download on the website) - we determined my problem is likely that the version of Midgard I'm running doesn't like my PHP version (wow I feel good that I actually got it working the best it would and it's nothing I did!) Would you agree the best course of action is as follows:? 1) Un-install all of Midgard, RPM's and all 2) Delete the MySQL database used by Midgard 3) Recompile my PHP extensions but this time use the external MySQL support compiled into it 4) Download the CVS version of Midgard (all modules), compile and install I know it's not really your area, but could you refer me to a website that will cover how to do #3 properly? I still have the sources installed and could likely do a quick rebuild, if you call 2 hours on a P2 400 quick, but don't know anything about external MySQL support. Will this required me to rebuild MySQL as well? Or would you suggest going ahead and compiling Midgard PHP module directly into the PHP as I build it? Thanks, Tony --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
