I apologize, but I haven't found much Nutch documentation that deals with the 
user-agent and robots.txt. Why am I being blocked when the user-agent I'm 
sending matches the user-agent in that robots.txt?

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Jelsma [mailto:markus.jel...@openindex.io] 
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 6:28 PM
To: user@nutch.apache.org
Cc: Chip Calhoun
Subject: Re: What could be blocking me, if not robots.txt?


> I've been able to run the ParserChecker now, but I'm not sure how to 
> understand the results. Here's what I got:
> 
> # bin/nutch org.apache.nutch.parse.ParserChecker
> http://digital.lib.umd.edu/oclc/MdU.ead.histms.0094.xml --------- Url
> ---------------
> http://digital.lib.umd.edu/oclc/MdU.ead.histms.0094.xml---------
> ParseData
> ---------
> Version: 5
> Status: success(1,0)
> Title:
> Outlinks: 1
>   outlink: toUrl: GR:32:A:128 anchor:
> Content Metadata: ETag="1fa962a-56f20-485df79c50980" Date=Fri, 30 Sep 
> 2011
> 19:54:14 GMT Content-Length=356128 Last-Modified=Wed, 05 May 2010 
> 21:26:14 GMT Content-Type=text/xml Connection=close 
> Accept-Ranges=bytes
> Server=Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Parse Metadata: 
> Content-Type=application/xml

This means almost everything is good to go but...

> 
> Curl also retrieves this file, and yet I can't get my crawl to pick it up.
> 
> Could it be an issue with robots.txt? The robots file for this site 
> reads as follows: User-agent: PHFAWS/Nutch-1.3
> Disallow:
> 
> User-agent: archive.org_bot
> Disallow:
> 
> User-agent: *
> Disallow: /

This is the problem.

> 
> That first user-agent is, as near as I can tell, what I'm sending. My 
> log shows the following: 2011-09-30 15:54:17,712 INFO  http.Http - 
> http.agent = PHFAWS/Nutch-1.3 (American Institute of Physics: Physics 
> History Finding Aids Web Site; 
> http://www.aip.org/history/nbl/findingaids.html;
> ccalh...@aip.org)
> 
> Can anyone tell what I'm missing? Thanks.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chip Calhoun [mailto:ccalh...@aip.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:12 PM
> To: user@nutch.apache.org
> Subject: RE: What could be blocking me, if not robots.txt?
> 
> Ah, sorry. I had already deleted the local copy from my server 
> (aip.org) to avoid clutter. So yeah, that will definitely 404 now.
> 
> Curl retrieves the whole file with no problems. I can't try the 
> ParserChecker today as I'm stuck away from my own machine, but I will 
> try it tomorrow. The fact that I can curl it at least tells me this is 
> a problem I need to fix in Nutch.
> 
> Chip
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Markus Jelsma [markus.jel...@openindex.io]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: user@nutch.apache.org
> Cc: Chip Calhoun
> Subject: Re: What could be blocking me, if not robots.txt?
> 
> Oh, it's a 404. That makes sense.
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I'm using Nutch to crawl a few friendly sites, and am having trouble 
> > with some of them. One site in particular has created an exception 
> > for me in its robots.txt, and yet I can't crawl any of its pages. 
> > I've tried copying the files I want to index (3 XML documents) to my 
> > own server and crawling that, and it works fine that way; so 
> > something is keeping me from indexing any files on this other site.
> > 
> > I compared the logs of my attempt to crawl the friendly site with my 
> > attempt to crawl my own site, and I've found few differences. Most 
> > differences come from the fact that my own site requires a 
> > crawlDelay, so there are many log sections along the lines of:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher - -activeThreads=10, 
> > spinWaiting=10, fetchQueues.totalSize=2 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO 
> > fetcher.Fetcher - * queue: http://www.aip.org 2011-09-29 
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > 
> >  fetcher.Fetcher -   maxThreads    = 1 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > 
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   inProgress    = 0 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   crawlDelay    = 5000 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   minCrawlDelay = 0 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   nextFetchTime = 1317308262122 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529
> > INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   now           = 1317308257529 2011-09-29
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   0.
> > http://www.aip.org/history/ead/umd/MdU.ead.histms.0067.xml 2011-09-29
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   1.
> > http://www.aip.org/history/ead/umd/MdU.ead.histms.0312.xml
> > 
> > That strikes me as probably irrelevant, but I figured I should 
> > mention it. The main difference I see in the logs is that the crawl 
> > of my own site (the crawl that worked) has the following two lines 
> > which do not appear in the log of my failed crawl:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:57:50,497 INFO  parse.ParserFactory - The parsing plugins:
> > [org.apache.nutch.parse.tika.TikaParser] are enabled via the 
> > plugin.includes system property, and all claim to support the 
> > content type application/xml, but they are not mapped to it  in the 
> > parse-plugins.xml file 2011-09-29 10:58:23,559 INFO 
> > crawl.SignatureFactory - Using Signature impl:
> > org.apache.nutch.crawl.MD5Signature
> > 
> > Also, while my successful crawl has three lines like the following, 
> > my failed one only has two:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:58:44,824 WARN  regex.RegexURLNormalizer - can't find 
> > rules for scope 'crawldb', using default
> > 
> > Can anyone think of something I might have missed?
> > 
> > Chip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Markus Jelsma [mailto:markus.jel...@openindex.io]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: user@nutch.apache.org
> Cc: Chip Calhoun
> Subject: Re: What could be blocking me, if not robots.txt?
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I'm using Nutch to crawl a few friendly sites, and am having trouble 
> > with some of them. One site in particular has created an exception 
> > for me in its robots.txt, and yet I can't crawl any of its pages. 
> > I've tried copying the files I want to index (3 XML documents) to my 
> > own server and crawling that, and it works fine that way; so 
> > something is keeping me from indexing any files on this other site.
> > 
> > I compared the logs of my attempt to crawl the friendly site with my 
> > attempt to crawl my own site, and I've found few differences. Most 
> > differences come from the fact that my own site requires a 
> > crawlDelay, so there are many log sections along the lines of:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher - -activeThreads=10, 
> > spinWaiting=10, fetchQueues.totalSize=2 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO 
> > fetcher.Fetcher - * queue: http://www.aip.org 2011-09-29 
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > 
> >  fetcher.Fetcher -   maxThreads    = 1 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > 
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   inProgress    = 0 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   crawlDelay    = 5000 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   minCrawlDelay = 0 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529 INFO
> > fetcher.Fetcher -   nextFetchTime = 1317308262122 2011-09-29 10:57:37,529
> > INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   now           = 1317308257529 2011-09-29
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   0.
> > http://www.aip.org/history/ead/umd/MdU.ead.histms.0067.xml 2011-09-29
> > 10:57:37,529 INFO  fetcher.Fetcher -   1.
> > http://www.aip.org/history/ead/umd/MdU.ead.histms.0312.xml
> > 
> > That strikes me as probably irrelevant, but I figured I should 
> > mention it. The main difference I see in the logs is that the crawl 
> > of my own site (the crawl that worked) has the following two lines 
> > which do not appear in the log of my failed crawl:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:57:50,497 INFO  parse.ParserFactory - The parsing plugins:
> > [org.apache.nutch.parse.tika.TikaParser] are enabled via the 
> > plugin.includes system property, and all claim to support the 
> > content type application/xml, but they are not mapped to it  in the 
> > parse-plugins.xml file 2011-09-29 10:58:23,559 INFO 
> > crawl.SignatureFactory - Using Signature impl:
> > org.apache.nutch.crawl.MD5Signature
> 
> If this doesn't popup when crawling the site that means its not 
> fetched (properly). Can you try using the parser checker to download 
> it? Can you you curl? The fetcher should throw an exception if there's 
> trouble but it may also be stopped by the http.content.limit setting.
> 
> > Also, while my successful crawl has three lines like the following, 
> > my failed one only has two:
> > 
> > 2011-09-29 10:58:44,824 WARN  regex.RegexURLNormalizer - can't find 
> > rules for scope 'crawldb', using default
> > 
> > Can anyone think of something I might have missed?
> > 
> > Chip

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