Thats good piece of Info Nima , it means you wont be able to crawl more
than 720 pages in 24 hrs , this sounds like a pretty serious limitation
though , I wonder if anyone uses Nutch in production and how they overcome
this limitation being imposed by sites like macys.com where they have a
Crawl-Delay specified?




On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Nima Falaki <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nevermind, I figured it out, I adjusted my fetcher.max.crawl.delay
> accordingly and it solved the issue. Macys.com has a crawl-delay of 120,
> nutch by default has a crawl delay of 30, so I had to change that and it
> worked. You guys must either make the crawl delay to -1 (something I dont
> recommend, but I did for example purposes), or to over 120 (for macys.com)
> in order to crawl macys.com
>
> <property>
>
>  <name>fetcher.max.crawl.delay</name>
>
>  <value>-1</value>
>
>  <description>
>
>  If the Crawl-Delay in robots.txt is set to greater than this value (in
>
>  seconds) then the fetcher will skip this page, generating an error report.
>
>  If set to -1 the fetcher will never skip such pages and will wait the
>
>  amount of time retrieved from robots.txt Crawl-Delay, however long that
>
>  might be.
>
>  </description>
>
> </property>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Nima Falaki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebastian:
> >
> > One thing I noticed is that when I tested the robots.txt with
> > RobotsRulesParser, which is in org.apache.nutch.protocol, with the
> > following URL
> >
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> >
> > It gave me this message
> >
> > 2014-06-02 18:27:16,949 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser (
> > SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(452)) - Problem processing
> > robots.txt for
> > /Users/nfalaki/shopstyle/apache-nutch-1.8/runtime/local/robots4.txt
> >
> > 2014-06-02 18:27:16,952 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser (
> > SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) - Unknown line in
> > robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *natuzzi*
> >
> > 2014-06-02 18:27:16,952 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser (
> > SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) - Unknown line in
> > robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *Natuzzi*
> >
> > 2014-06-02 18:27:16,954 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser (
> > SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) - Unknown line in
> > robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *natuzzi*
> >
> > 2014-06-02 18:27:16,955 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser (
> > SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) - Unknown line in
> > robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *Natuzzi*
> >
> > *allowed:
> >
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> > <
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> >*
> >
> >
> > This is in direct contrary to what happened when I ran the crawl script
> > with
> >
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> > as my SeedURL
> >
> > I got this in my crawlDB
> >
> > *
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> > <
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> >
> >       Version: 7*
> >
> > *Status: 3 (db_gone)*
> >
> > *Fetch time: Thu Jul 17 18:05:47 PDT 2014*
> >
> > *Modified time: Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 PST 1969*
> >
> > *Retries since fetch: 0*
> >
> > *Retry interval: 3888000 seconds (45 days)*
> >
> > *Score: 1.0*
> >
> > *Signature: null*
> >
> > *Metadata:*
> >
> > *        _pst_=robots_denied(18), lastModified=0*
> >
> >
> > Is this a bug in the crawler-commons 0.3? Where when you test the macys
> > robots.txt file with RobotRulesParser it allows it, but when you run the
> > macys url as a seed url in the crawl script then it denies the url.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Sebastian Nagel <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Luke, hi Nima,
> >>
> >> >     The/Robot Exclusion Standard/does not mention anything about the
> >> "*" character in
> >> > the|Disallow:|statement.
> >> Indeed the RFC draft [1] does not. However, since Google [2] does wild
> >> card patterns are
> >> frequently used in robots.txt. With crawler-commons 0.4 [3] these rules
> >> are also followed
> >> by Nutch (to be in versions 1.9 resp. 2.3).
> >>
> >> But the error message is about the noindex lines:
> >>  noindex: *natuzzi*
> >> These lines are redundant (and also invalid, I suppose):
> >> if a page/URL is disallowed, it's not fetched at all,
> >> and will hardly slip into the index.
> >> I think you can ignore the warning.
> >>
> >> > One might also question the craw-delay setting of 120 seconds, but
> >> that's another issue...
> >> Yeah, it will take very long to crawl the site.
> >> With Nutch the property "fetcher.max.crawl.delay" needs to be adjusted:
> >>
> >> <property>
> >>  <name>fetcher.max.crawl.delay</name>
> >>  <value>30</value>
> >>  <description>
> >>  If the Crawl-Delay in robots.txt is set to greater than this value (in
> >>  seconds) then the fetcher will skip this page, generating an error
> >> report.
> >>  If set to -1 the fetcher will never skip such pages and will wait the
> >>  amount of time retrieved from robots.txt Crawl-Delay, however long that
> >>  might be.
> >>  </description>
> >> </property>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Sebastian
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.robotstxt.org/norobots-rfc.txt
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://developers.google.com/webmasters/control-crawl-index/docs/robots_txt
> >> [3]
> >>
> http://crawler-commons.googlecode.com/svn/tags/crawler-commons-0.4/CHANGES.txt
> >>
> >> On 05/31/2014 04:27 PM, Luke Mawbey wrote:
> >> > From wikipedia:
> >> >     The/Robot Exclusion Standard/does not mention anything about the
> >> "*" character in
> >> > the|Disallow:|statement. Some crawlers like Googlebot recognize
> strings
> >> containing "*", while MSNbot
> >> > and Teoma interpret it in different ways
> >> >
> >> > So the 'problem' is with Macy's. Really, there is no problem for you:
> >> presumably that line is just
> >> > ignored from robots.txt.
> >> >
> >> > One might also question the craw-delay setting of 120 seconds, but
> >> that's another issue...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 31/05/2014 12:16 AM, Nima Falaki wrote:
> >> >> Hello Everyone:
> >> >>
> >> >> Just have a question about an issue I discovered while trying to
> crawl
> >> the
> >> >> macys robots.txt, I am using nutch 1.8 and used crawler-commons 0.3
> and
> >> >> crawler-commons 0.4. This is the robots.txt file from macys
> >> >>
> >> >> User-agent: *
> >> >> Crawl-delay: 120
> >> >> Disallow: /compare
> >> >> Disallow: /registry/wedding/compare
> >> >> Disallow: /catalog/product/zoom.jsp
> >> >> Disallow: /search
> >> >> Disallow: /shop/search
> >> >> Disallow: /shop/registry/wedding/search
> >> >> Disallow: *natuzzi*
> >> >> noindex: *natuzzi*
> >> >> Disallow: *Natuzzi*
> >> >> noindex: *Natuzzi*
> >> >> Disallow:  /bag/add*
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> When I run this robots.txt through the RobotsRulesParser with this
> url
> >> >> (
> >>
> http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/inc-international-concepts-dont-forget-me-split-t-shirt?ID=1430219&CategoryID=30423&LinkType=
> >> )
> >> >>
> >> >> I get the following exceptions
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-05-30 17:02:20,570 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser
> >> >> (SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) -     Unknown line
> in
> >> >> robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *natuzzi*
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-05-30 17:02:20,571 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser
> >> >> (SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) -     Unknown line
> in
> >> >> robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *Natuzzi*
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-05-30 17:02:20,574 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser
> >> >> (SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) -     Unknown line
> in
> >> >> robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *natuzzi*
> >> >>
> >> >> 2014-05-30 17:02:20,574 WARN  robots.SimpleRobotRulesParser
> >> >> (SimpleRobotRulesParser.java:reportWarning(456)) -     Unknown line
> in
> >> >> robots.txt file (size 672): noindex: *Natuzzi*
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there anything I can do to solve this problem? Is this a problem
> >> >> with nutch or does macys.com have a really bad robots.txt file?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   <http://www.popsugar.com>
> >> >> Nima Falaki
> >> >> Software Engineer
> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >  <http://www.popsugar.com>
> >
> > Nima Falaki
> > Software Engineer
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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> Software Engineer
> [email protected]
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