On Mar 10, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Alex Boisvert wrote:
On 3/10/08, Fakhri Alam Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can you please answer my query about ODE engine,
"Does ODE support to invoke WSRF services ?"
I'm looking for it but didn't find anything about it .
As far as I know, the answer is no.  It's never been discussed on the
mailing lists and there's no explicit support in the code.


I can affirm Alex's answer of "no", although it's not impossible.

The most difficult part of integrating WSRF resources into a BPEL process is dealing with the security and delegation requirements that WSRF resources have (in the general case), and that's work that needs to be done in the protocol layer (i.e., in AXIS2 or in ServiceMix) as opposed to in ODE. AFAIK, the only release-worthy work that was done in this area was done to get an AXIS1 layer (that's part of some other BPEL engine whose name I've forgotten) working with WS-GRAM for the CaBIG project.

One "feature" would be the ability to bpel:invoke WSRF resources through WS-GRAM, and I spent some time looking at how to go about that once upon a time. Other than doing direct implementation of the WS- GRAM protocols in the integration layer, one approach would be to implement portions of the WS-GRAM protocol as a BPEL process and then use that process as a proxy to the WS-GRAM endpoints. (The BPEL process would handle the notifications, security negotiation, etc.)

It would be a great thing since orchestration (e.g., BPEL) fills an important role in building software for the grid and ODE is the only liberally-licensed (and also the best, IMHO) runtime out there.

I'm sure that there are folks out there working on and thinking about this right now, so they may chime in, too.

Best.

Paul Brown
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